The Israel Problem: Why We Should End The Welfare

self | 12/30/01 | Rick Fisk

[Demidog]

Israel has the right to direct it's own affairs. Our "support" denies them this right.

[Demidog]

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[imperator2]

Happy New Year. Hopefully Fisk's last.

[Demidog]

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[Demidog]

Hopefully Fisk's last.

Such a friendly sentiment. Why?

[FITZ]

I've read other articles saying Israel would do better against it's enemies if the US wasn't constantly holding it back. I don't know too much about all that ---but after Sept 11, I think holding back against terrorists states doesn't work well.

[lewislynn]

And furthermore, how much sense does it make for the U.S. to send aid to both Israel and the Palestinians or Jordanians or other potential enemies of Israel against the wishes of those who support Israel

Yours would be one of many opinions, but why did you call for the end of welfare to Israel but not the "other potential enemies of Israel"?

[Demidog]

I think you misunderstand. I would call and end to aid of any kind to any nation that wasn't voluntary. Sorry I wasn't clear.

[A CA Guy]

First, please find a way to kick all the illegal aliens out of California please. They are a far bigger drain than welfare ever was. We passed 187 and Gray Davis squashed the will of the people by NOT defending it in court. It was a historic move by a CA Gov.

Secondly, America had treaties all over the world that are in place from before the cold war that has us financing or protecting them from all sorts of garbage. It was our way of buying influence to help others avoid communism. So our involvement in many areas have been by actual obligation.

Lastly, welfare as a way of life is a form of slavery. I don't wan't people to be enslaved by access to easy money to NOT work. I do believe in short term safty nets when jobs are lost and perhaps an unexpected birth ruins college or the current job. Any safty nets should be os maybe 6 months. The only exclusion would be what SS does when a spouse dies. It helps through the deceased spouses SS benefits to give a check to their child until as late as 22 id they are in college.

That's my 2 cents! Except for one little deal. We don't want Israel to lose in the Middle East because we will be without any true friend or friendly ground. So don't be so quick to pull the financial plug over there.

[Catspaw]

Has Fisk recovered from the whuppin' he got in Pakistan/Afghanistan yet?

I still like the idea of cutting off all aid for Israel and the Palestinians--and not have the US interfere if any untidiness breaks out.

[Demidog]

Wrong Fisk.

[Sabramerican]

You may be unaware but last year an agreement was signed between Israel and the United States to reduce and gradually end all foreign (non-military) aid to Israel in about six years.

Military aid will continue. Military aid to Israel must be spent in the US and is a win win for both Nations.

[Demidog]

There's nothing saying that the financial plug would be pulled. If Americans had the means and ability to send support at their own pace, Israel would more than likely get more American assistence than it receives now.

[rdb3]

Here we go again. . .

[Catspaw]

Wrong Fisk.

Oh, foo. He must not be able to type yet.

[Demidog]

Any aid that doesn't have the 100% support of the American people is by definition coersion and thus immoral. And Israel cannot possibly be helped by having the U.S. dictate its responses to terrorist acts.

[Sabramerican]

You are a soaring intellect and a scholar of the American form of government.

[dennisw]

Aid to Israel is a plus for the United States and Israel. Just because you are a libertarian and isolationist doesn't mean others are obligated to.
All Robert Fisk does is to spout the same tired old Islamic garbage that can be found on countless Muslim websites. Cut off aid to Israel so the Muslims have a better shot at destroying Israel. Robert Fisk is just another leftist/socialist critic of the Jewish state. Amusing how the socialists and Islamists make common cause with some of the libertarians such as you. All to get rid of Israel.

The United States is a world power. We are not Switzerland. We will act as a great power acts. Aligning our selves with democracies in an unforgiving world. You demidog, can take up the ostrich pose and think that abandoning Israel does something positive. It does not. This will just encourage the world wide Muslim Jihad.

[Demidog]

Thanks!