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Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for Israel
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Posted on 12/26/2001 12:38:08 PM PST by madrussian

LONDON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), the world's most wanted man, said on a video broadcast by al-Jazeera satellite television on Wednesday that the September 11 suicide attacks were intended to stop U.S. support for Israel.

``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.

The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.

Looking tired but calm, bin Laden was dressed in a clean, camouflage-patterned combat jacket. He sat against a cloth or canvas screen, his Russian-designed submachinegun propped beside him. There was no indication where he was when he recorded the video.


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To: madrussian
I'd argue with that statement.

But you are not...

So we can dump the whole "abandoning our friend" routine from now on?

Its not Israel per se. But us backstabbing the only democracy in the middle east, would definately do a great deal of damage to THE democratic leader of our planet.

181 posted on 12/26/2001 2:54:54 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
"Siding and supporting doesn't necessarily include billions of aid and blocking UN resolutions supported by "other democratic allies".

Why is it that the OBL-cheering-section never objects to the billions more sent by the US to the Arab nations? A few billion to Israel, and they scream bloody murder. A few tens of billions sent to the Arabs, and suddenly they clam up like the cat that ate the canary.

How utterly transparent, yet, they strut about like little banty roosters, confident that no one can see through their little charade.

"Capisce?"

Oh, the irony.

182 posted on 12/26/2001 2:55:32 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: madrussian
Israel doesn't want to compromise

Barak offered Arafat 97% of the West Bank, and Arafat refused without making a counter offer. That happened rather recently. So I ask you, why in the world did you type the word “Israel” rather than “Arafat” or the “Palestinians?” I can understand you saying that the Palestinians should not compromise because Israel should be wiped from the face of the map, and that you believe that their present policies maximize that prospect. That might be execrable and wrong, but is not irrational. What you typed above however is simply bizarre and detached from reality IMO.

183 posted on 12/26/2001 2:55:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: madrussian
Either you missed my previous post or you had no answer to it....here it is again....

Regardless of ones stance on support of Israel one thing is certain.....the only reason there is any semblance of stability in that region is our support of israel. If we walked off the entire region would melt before the worlds eyes. Israel would probably be forced to nuke several countries to defend herself but in the long run with no world support she would be dismantled by the arab/muslim nations. Then we could watch them fight each other until someone like sadam contoled the whole region and with the economic power that brings watch him begin to spread his dominance throughout the world....you want on that Americ first island?

184 posted on 12/26/2001 2:56:15 PM PST by is_is
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To: madrussian
Aha, that's where you find the problem, can't be anti-Israeli (I'm not).

You aren't? You could've fooled me.

Oh, wait--you're just anti-semitic.

185 posted on 12/26/2001 2:59:31 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Logophile
If you believe that the United States should change some of its policies regarding Israel, simply state what those policies are and why they should be changed. Quoting bin Laden simply confuses the issue, and leads people to the reasonable conclusion that you agree with him.

I already stated that.

"Quoting bin Laden" is used to refute the previous Israel-firsters' line of defence of Israel "not having anything to do with it". As expected, they fell back onto the second line of defence, which for an observant reader should tell something about their trying to spin this.

Actually, I never said such a thing. I simply objected to the idea that we should change our policies to appease a vicious thug like bin Laden.

That does sound silly, but that's not what I said.

I don't know about the Israel-firsters (whoever they may be), but I am less scared than disgusted by people (such as Bin Laden and you) who try to use support for Israel to justify terrorist attacks on my countrymen.

That's another misconception of yours. I'd refer you to excellent articles by Sam Francis on the subject. I can send you links when I find them.

So now we are supposed to believe that Israel somehow "set us up" for the attacks on 11 September?

Read my reply to Brooklyn above.

186 posted on 12/26/2001 2:59:38 PM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
Its not Israel per se. But us backstabbing the only democracy in the middle east, would definately do a great deal of damage to THE democratic leader of our planet.

You couldn't be straight for more than one post, LOL!

Cheap emotional blackmail is back!

187 posted on 12/26/2001 3:00:57 PM PST by madrussian
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To: tex-oma
Well.... if YOU are from California, it MUST be bad.

And to take it one step further, maybe Osama himself is from California. If not, perhaps we can all pretend he is. It would make things so simple for those of us who regard him as a completely irrational monster, a la Sesame Street, instead of a rational, sane leader of a political and military movement. But that's the ways of war!

188 posted on 12/26/2001 3:01:42 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Don Joe
The billions sent to Arab nations are bribes designed to keep Israel-friendly regime in the office.
189 posted on 12/26/2001 3:02:50 PM PST by madrussian
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To: Catspaw
And finally, the conclusion of every Israel-firster. LOL!
190 posted on 12/26/2001 3:03:48 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
You couldn't be straight for more than one post, LOL!

What are you talking about? Can you imagine what kind of precedent it would set for us to walk away from a democracy and at the same time promote democracy in other parts of the world?

191 posted on 12/26/2001 3:03:53 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
You, however, are a one-note Annie and have become very tiresome.

Cheers,
PB

192 posted on 12/26/2001 3:04:52 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Either/Or; tex-oma
Perhaps they have incorporated the new "Hate Watch" software into their programming? You got me, tex.

If you want to post articles from Sam Francis, be my guest. In fact, I want you too--see, it's not my site, but JimRob's, and he's the one who determines what stays & what goes.

Anyway, it'd thin down the posters on FR if you did post from SamFrancis.

193 posted on 12/26/2001 3:05:27 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Torie
According to Israel, that was a great offer. The best they could offer, in other words. And why should I believe that?
194 posted on 12/26/2001 3:05:29 PM PST by madrussian
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To: is_is
Essentially, what you are saying is that America is Israel's hostage. Fair enough.
195 posted on 12/26/2001 3:07:15 PM PST by madrussian
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To: BrooklynGOP
So you are saying that Isreal is a totally unviable state and America has to maintain it.

Great offer.

196 posted on 12/26/2001 3:08:09 PM PST by madrussian
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To: Pharmboy
Trying to deprogram you. Sorry about that, move along please.
197 posted on 12/26/2001 3:08:47 PM PST by madrussian
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To: madrussian
What you are saying is that America is islam's hostage, and we have to do everything and anything to appease them.
198 posted on 12/26/2001 3:09:03 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: madrussian
No, you said Israel refused to compromise, not that their compromise was insufficiently generous. I say Arafat refused to compromise because he didn't make a counter offer, and hasn't offered squat. You are dumping on the wrong party on this issue. Admit it. And btw, what should Israel offer in order to get over the height of your adequately generous bar?
199 posted on 12/26/2001 3:09:15 PM PST by Torie
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To: madrussian
So what you are saying is that you can't read and comprehend. Alrighty.
200 posted on 12/26/2001 3:09:34 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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