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Dying boy, 15, gets wish: losing virginity
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/23/01 | BY BENJAMIN ERRETT

Posted on 12/23/2001 6:26:24 AM PST by Mopp4

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To: StolarStorm
Please excuse #439. This is your comment I was responding to: He's a 15 year old boy... sex is ALL they think about. Geeesh.... get off your holy roller high horse
441 posted on 12/23/2001 5:35:08 PM PST by Mopp4
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I didn't reject... i checked them off one by one. The point is, there are other religions with different moral codes than the xtians. Judah hired a harlot (who was Tamar in disguise). Nowhere does the Torah state Judah was wrong in doing this. Samson slept around. Nowhere is fornication listed as an offense in the Torah (except an overabundance of it (ie, very promiscous)).

And this particulair case doesn't seem to be a kid sleeping around with many people does it? So, what if he were Jewish? What about me? Ive had pre-marital sex. And Im a convert. Does this mean I am going to hell?

Yet quite a few (no hyperbole) seem to either state that, or infer with their words that, this kid is now getting slow roasted.

Your half of the book says something about not judging doesn't it?

442 posted on 12/23/2001 5:38:50 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: Lazarus Long
Appearently they haven't heard Lazarus Long say,"there is only one way to comfort a widow,but beware of the consequences."
444 posted on 12/23/2001 5:44:17 PM PST by tet68
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To: Cap'n Crunch
But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me,

15 years old is not a little one. And I doubt this kid believed in HIM anyway.

Look. If this kid was a saved Christian, than what he did was wrong and a sin, but it would not be enough to condemn him to hell. However, If he was not a saved Christian, than the point is moot, because he wasn't saved anyway.

445 posted on 12/23/2001 5:45:12 PM PST by southern rock
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To: tet68
Write a discussion on the merits of the Dewey Decimal system and have it on my desk by MONDAY!
The Dewey Decimal system is very bad. All the numbers in it refer to sex. That is why librarians are libertines. Don't take my word for it -- look for yourself. See? What a filthy sod Melvil Dewey was. I hate him. He has burned in Hell since 1931, hahahahaha.
All right, where's my A+?
446 posted on 12/23/2001 5:48:46 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Only since 1931??? Not nearly long enough!

Dighton.A+

So my friend,what do you think,the Kid gonna burn in hell or did he get a little piece of an angel.

I like Bukousky,"Her Ass looked like the bottom of heaven!"

447 posted on 12/23/2001 5:53:22 PM PST by tet68
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To: BibChr
#43--You hit it, Dan. Nothing to add.
449 posted on 12/23/2001 5:54:57 PM PST by Old Fud
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To: Lazarus Long
But the question is, why would he want to deny himself this pleasure? Sure, he was certainly capable of controlling his lust, but why on earth would he want to (in this case)? There would be no unwanted baby coming into the world (because prostitutes obviously use protection), so what reason can you give for him not engaging in this consensual activity?

...and don't give me this "he's going to Hell, it says so it the Bible" nonsense.

I don't believe the Bible is nonsense, but if by hell you mean a place of eternal torment, you are right. Sinners die. Nothing more, nothing less.

Biblically, it is a sin. Practically, he's no worse a sinner than you or I. But what's sad is that perfectly reasonable people like yourself don't recognize it as being wrong.

Like it or not, we are here for more than just the fullfillment of our sexual fantasies. One day everyone will be made aware of this.

450 posted on 12/23/2001 5:55:54 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Demidog
I'm not condemning the boy to hell but I don't find much to praise about the prostitute either. I don't think she did anything out of compassion at all, she did it for the money, it's not like she loved him or cared one iota about him. Otherwise it doesn't bother me too much one way or the other except he sounds like he died pretty lonely.
451 posted on 12/23/2001 5:57:28 PM PST by FITZ
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To: tet68
ahhhhhh.... Buck!
brings back some memories.
But you do know that the lifestyle he lived means he is writhing in agony right now and will be forever, dont you??!?!?!?
452 posted on 12/23/2001 5:57:34 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: tet68
Heaven for him, I hope and pray. If he's gone to hell on account of that fulfilled wish, I'll be joining him there -- no doubt in a worse section.
454 posted on 12/23/2001 6:00:53 PM PST by dighton
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I doubt if a merciful loving god will condemn him to hell for getting a piece after he was given a long painful terminal illness. People that want to criticize this kid for this need to get a frigging life.
455 posted on 12/23/2001 6:02:52 PM PST by Tailback
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To: all
well, g-night all. and this time i mean it! I'll be going to bed and having puratinically pure dreams tonight. I wish you all the same!
456 posted on 12/23/2001 6:04:15 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: bigcheese
I have this little tin foil hat habit of saying some prayers and opening the Bible for an answer to the question I am seeking.

I said a few prayers for an answer to your post and opened the Bible. Heres the answer.

"Certain individuals have recently wormed their way into your midst, godless types, long ago destined for the condemnation I shall describe. They pervert the gracious gift of our God to sexual excess and deny Jesus Christ, our only master and Lord."

"I wish to remind you of certain things, even though you may already be very well aware of them. The Lord first rescued his people from the land of Egypt but later destroyed those who refused to believe. There were angels, too, who did not keep to their own domain, who deserted their dwelling place. These the Lord has kept in perpetual bondage, shrouded in murky darkness against the judgment of the great day. Sodom, Gomorrah, and the towns thereabout indulged in lust, just as those angels did; they practiced unnatural vice. They are set before us to dissuade us, as they undergo a punishment of eternal fire. Similarly, these visionaries pollute the flesh; they spurn God's dominion and revile the angelic beings. Even the archangel Michael, when his case with the devil was being judged-a dispute over Moses' body-did not venture to charge him with blasphemy. He simply said, "May the Lord punish you." These people, however, not only revile what they have no knowledge of but are corrupted through the very things they know by instinct, like brute animals. So much the worse for them! They have taken the road Cain took. They have abandoned themselves to Balaam's error for pay, and like Korah they perish in rebellion. These men are blotches to your Christian banquets. They join solemn feasts without shame and only look after themselves. They are blown on the wind like clouds that bring no rain. Like trees at the year's end they bear no fruit, being dead and uprooted. They are wild ocean waves, splashing their shameless deeds around like foam, or shooting stars for whom the thick gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. It was about these that Enoch, who was of the seventh generation descended from Adam, prophesied when he said, "See, the Lord has come with countless holy ones about him to pass judgement on all men, indicting the godless for every evil deed they have done, and convicting those godless sinners of every harsh word they have uttered against him. These men are grumblers and whiners. They live by their passions, uttering bombast. Whenever it is expedient, they resort to flattery. Remember, beloved, all of you, the prophetic words of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; how they kept telling you, "In the last days there will be imposters living by their godless passions." These sensualists, devoid of the Spirit, are causing divisions among you."

I thought it was quite appropriate.

458 posted on 12/23/2001 6:07:49 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Sungirl ; Texasproud
Hey you two ...........hug and make up ! No judging of others is allowed on Chrismas is it ? Bless ya both and all that is in your world this holiday season ! All togeather now ! and a one and a two.....Jingle Bells , Jingle Bells, Jingle all the waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

(Too much egg nog maybe ?) Stay Safe Ya'll !

459 posted on 12/23/2001 6:09:18 PM PST by Squantos
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To: southern rock
Yes, today when 5 and 8 year olds are commiting rapes, and young girls walk around pregnant or having abortions, I suppose 15 is an old salt.

Surely old enough for adults to buy him a prostitute on his death bed.

Its a scandal. And its a scandal that clergy were not all united on condemning it.

Situation ethics.

460 posted on 12/23/2001 6:14:32 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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