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To: Cap'n Crunch
I didn't reject... i checked them off one by one. The point is, there are other religions with different moral codes than the xtians. Judah hired a harlot (who was Tamar in disguise). Nowhere does the Torah state Judah was wrong in doing this. Samson slept around. Nowhere is fornication listed as an offense in the Torah (except an overabundance of it (ie, very promiscous)).

And this particulair case doesn't seem to be a kid sleeping around with many people does it? So, what if he were Jewish? What about me? Ive had pre-marital sex. And Im a convert. Does this mean I am going to hell?

Yet quite a few (no hyperbole) seem to either state that, or infer with their words that, this kid is now getting slow roasted.

Your half of the book says something about not judging doesn't it?

442 posted on 12/23/2001 5:38:50 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: bigcheese
I have this little tin foil hat habit of saying some prayers and opening the Bible for an answer to the question I am seeking.

I said a few prayers for an answer to your post and opened the Bible. Heres the answer.

"Certain individuals have recently wormed their way into your midst, godless types, long ago destined for the condemnation I shall describe. They pervert the gracious gift of our God to sexual excess and deny Jesus Christ, our only master and Lord."

"I wish to remind you of certain things, even though you may already be very well aware of them. The Lord first rescued his people from the land of Egypt but later destroyed those who refused to believe. There were angels, too, who did not keep to their own domain, who deserted their dwelling place. These the Lord has kept in perpetual bondage, shrouded in murky darkness against the judgment of the great day. Sodom, Gomorrah, and the towns thereabout indulged in lust, just as those angels did; they practiced unnatural vice. They are set before us to dissuade us, as they undergo a punishment of eternal fire. Similarly, these visionaries pollute the flesh; they spurn God's dominion and revile the angelic beings. Even the archangel Michael, when his case with the devil was being judged-a dispute over Moses' body-did not venture to charge him with blasphemy. He simply said, "May the Lord punish you." These people, however, not only revile what they have no knowledge of but are corrupted through the very things they know by instinct, like brute animals. So much the worse for them! They have taken the road Cain took. They have abandoned themselves to Balaam's error for pay, and like Korah they perish in rebellion. These men are blotches to your Christian banquets. They join solemn feasts without shame and only look after themselves. They are blown on the wind like clouds that bring no rain. Like trees at the year's end they bear no fruit, being dead and uprooted. They are wild ocean waves, splashing their shameless deeds around like foam, or shooting stars for whom the thick gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. It was about these that Enoch, who was of the seventh generation descended from Adam, prophesied when he said, "See, the Lord has come with countless holy ones about him to pass judgement on all men, indicting the godless for every evil deed they have done, and convicting those godless sinners of every harsh word they have uttered against him. These men are grumblers and whiners. They live by their passions, uttering bombast. Whenever it is expedient, they resort to flattery. Remember, beloved, all of you, the prophetic words of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; how they kept telling you, "In the last days there will be imposters living by their godless passions." These sensualists, devoid of the Spirit, are causing divisions among you."

I thought it was quite appropriate.

458 posted on 12/23/2001 6:07:49 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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