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Dying boy, 15, gets wish: losing virginity
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/23/01 | BY BENJAMIN ERRETT

Posted on 12/23/2001 6:26:24 AM PST by Mopp4

A terminally ill boy had his dying wish granted in Australia this month, but ethicists are still at odds over whether it was the right thing to do.
The wish was not for a trip to Disneyland or to meet a famous sports star. Instead, the 15-year-old wanted to lose his virginity before he died of cancer. The boy, who remains anonymous but was called Jack by the Australian media, did not want his parents to know about his request. Because of his many years spent in the hospital, he had no girlfriend or female friends.
Jack died last week, but not before having his last wish granted. Without the knowledge of his parents or hospital staff, friends arranged an encounter with a prostitute outside of hospital premises. All precautions were taken, and the organizers made sure the act was fully consensual. The issue has sparked fierce debate over the legal and ethical implications of granting the boy's request. By law, Jack was still a child, and the woman involved could in theory face charges for having sex with a minor. The debate was sparked by the hospital's child psychologist, who wrote a letter to "Life Matters," a radio show in which academics debate ethical and moral dilemmas. The scenario was presented in the abstract, with no details about the boy's identity.

"He had been sick for quite a long period, and his schooling was very disrupted, so he hadn't had many opportunities to acquire and retain friends, and his access to young women was pretty poor," the psychologist said recently in an interview with Australia's Daily Telegraph newspaper. "But he was very interested in young women and was experiencing that surge of testosterone that teenage boys have." Hospital staff initially wanted to pool donations to pay for a prostitute, but the ethical and legal implications prevented them from doing so. The psychologist presented members of the clergy with the dilemma and found no clear answer. "It really polarized them," he said. "About half said, 'What's your problem?' And the other half said [it] demeans women and reduces the sexual act to being just a physical one."

Dr. Stephen Leeder, dean of medicine at the University of Sydney and a "Life Matters" panelist, said the issue was a difficult one. "I pointed out that public hospitals operated under the expectation that they would abide by state law," he said. "While various things doubtless are done that are at the edge of that, it's important the public has confidence that the law will be followed." Jack's psychologist, who works with children in palliative care, said the desire was driven in part by a need for basic human contact. "In a child dying over a long period of time, there is often a condition we call 'skin hunger,'" he said. The terminally ill child yearns for non-clinical contact because "mostly when people touch them, it's to do something unpleasant, something that might hurt." Leeder called the diagnosis "improbable." Judy Lumby, the show's other panelist and the executive director of the New South Wales College of Nursing, argued that the details as presented made it abundantly clear the boy's wish ought to be granted. "I said that I would try my darndest as a nurse to do whatever I could to make sure his wish came true," she said. "I just think we are so archaic in the way we treat people in institutions. Certainly, if any of my three daughters were dying, I'd do whatever I could, and I'm sure that you would, too." National Post


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To: all
well.... gotta go. and this time i mean it :-) Ill bookmark and take a look tommorrow.
302 posted on 12/23/2001 2:00:10 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Sex is probably the one activity we have most in common with the lower species.

So what?

Are you complaining about it? Some of us consider sex a gift from God and a spiritual endeavor if it's done correctly.

And some of us consider it filthy and lude. Those that do, generally suppress their desires to do filthy and lude things and then project their own obsessions on to others.

Which category do you fit into?

303 posted on 12/23/2001 2:01:05 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Do you suppose.............Naw. Now that would really be some interesting stuff for a discussion.
304 posted on 12/23/2001 2:01:46 PM PST by cocknlock
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To: garbanzo
I don't think you're much different.

All I do is describe Reality. Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

305 posted on 12/23/2001 2:03:19 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Alrighty then...on that note...I'm outta here....you people are too much.
306 posted on 12/23/2001 2:03:30 PM PST by Neets
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To: FITZ
She was in it for the money.

We don't know that. We do know that she granted his wish and she didn't have to. Even if it were for the money, I stand by my statement that she showed more compassion for that boy than any of the so-called Christians who are claiming that he's burning in hell or was wrong for wanting to find out about sex before he died.

307 posted on 12/23/2001 2:04:01 PM PST by Demidog
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To: cocknlock
What?What? Don't leave me hanging!

And bring on some more ludes man!

308 posted on 12/23/2001 2:05:27 PM PST by tet68
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To: Cultural Jihad
Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

Seeing as you do that quite often, I'd have to congratulate you on your excercising that particular principle.

309 posted on 12/23/2001 2:05:44 PM PST by Demidog
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To: southern rock ; logic101.net ; bigcheese; where's_the_Outrage? ;John Jorsett;cocknlock...
The way I understand it is, that once Christ died, the old law passed away.

The more I read, the more I see that people have been following the "Judge Not" crowd.

"JUDGE RIGHTLY" is Correct, not the misquoted JUDGE NOT. This is what the devil wants you to believe. To try and shut-up the God Fearing by taking away some of the best offence a Christian has. I got news for them, it ain't working. To defend this kids actions is terrible, be it with a prostitute, a gay man, an animal. Maybe it is ok for any fantasy this kid wants, perhaps he dreams of blowing up a building. Maybe he wants to watch Jack the Ripper in action. Degrading sex that was intended for marriage to something gutter wise is sad, no wonder there is no respect for women anymore.

Click "HERE" for the FR post "Are Christians Too Nice"

I am disgusted with half the posters on this article. I wonder why they didn't vote for Clinton. Maybe they did.

Please leave flames on the article linked above. Maybe even read it before you comment.

310 posted on 12/23/2001 2:06:12 PM PST by LowOiL
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To: Demidog
The above post especially applys to your lack of morals.
311 posted on 12/23/2001 2:07:55 PM PST by LowOiL
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To: Cultural Jihad
And what are our future leaders being told of the value and purpose of life by their Marxist moral-liberal professors?

You could always just worry about yourself instead of anyone else but I suppose that might just make your life too damn boring.

312 posted on 12/23/2001 2:08:12 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
You got that right!
313 posted on 12/23/2001 2:09:42 PM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
Well, wasn't Jesus fully man (as well as fully God)? I've always been confused by that idea because if it is true, then maybe........just maybe, well you know. Maybe He did stuff pretty common to what humans actually do. I mean, he probably pooped once in a while. So maybe he had sex! There, I said it. Now I'll go to hell for damn sure.
314 posted on 12/23/2001 2:10:19 PM PST by cocknlock
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To: Lowelljr
The above post especially applys to your lack of morals.

No it doesn't. It only shows how human nature demands that some folks will do anything to justify their sinfull behavior. In this case the sinful behavior of gossip and slander. That you think this is justified by the Bible only proves that the bible can be interpreted by anyone to justify their immoral behaviors.

315 posted on 12/23/2001 2:11:39 PM PST by Demidog
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To: JudyB1938
Amen! Amen! Amen!
316 posted on 12/23/2001 2:13:06 PM PST by FreedomFighter86
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To: garbanzo
I hadn't seen it until now.
317 posted on 12/23/2001 2:14:05 PM PST by paltz
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To: cocknlock
Weeeell,you can be pretty sure it was immaculate poop and that somewhere,one of these folks has it enshrined in polyvynal,complete with a slip of paper that says Gandalf 3:16.
319 posted on 12/23/2001 2:15:01 PM PST by tet68
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To: Sungirl
I wish more girls would have sex. =)
320 posted on 12/23/2001 2:17:19 PM PST by FreedomFighter86
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