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Is WorldNetDaily Really a "Free Press for a Free People"?
Question ^ | 12/19/01 | memsahib

Posted on 12/19/2001 8:54:42 AM PST by memsahib

I have been reading worldnetdaily.com since 9/11. They seem to be more timely with news than most (freerepublic.com the exception--this site is faster than the majority most of the time). WND's motto is "A free press for a free people" and they seem to address issues the mainstream press neglects. Good so far.

Within the past week, however, WND had a poll going to vote for the most underreported item of the year. It said that the suggetions would be screened and it was apparent that those that passed muster were publicized on their site. So I figured if they really are a free press then they would at least accept this suggestion for the most underreported story of the year: how Scientology has taken over the California State Bar.

No real surprise when my suggestion didn't pass muster. I understand that to carry negative Scientology stories can lead to harassment and possible litigation for the publisher, and I don't fault WND for trying to avoid the negative consequences. However, I feel it is fraudulent for WND to represent itself as "a free press for a free people" when they (apparently) are not free enough to carry negative (but true) stories about Scientology. At least here at freerepublic.com, we can discuss Scientology without being deleted or ignored. Thank you Jim Robinson for having a "free press."

My concern is this: Scientology has subverted freedom of speech and press in America. The majority of Americans are unware that this has happened because they have not been involved in it. I have and I know it is the best kept secret (by the media) in America. For the past 9 years, Scientology has been involved in pulling the strings of a judge in Kentucky to deprive a Scientology critic of his children, an attorney in California who advocated Scientology victims has been suspended from practice because of the infiltration of the California State Bar by Scientology, Scientology unduly influenced the medical examiner of Pinellas County into reversing her medical opinion in the Lisa McPherson death case thereby causing the state to lose the case (and the medical examiner, btw, has disappeared since then), at least one Freeper has indicated that Scientology may have infiltrated the Democratic Party (and considering that the IRS reversal in Scientology's favor happened on Bill Clinton's watch lends credence to that view), and another Freeper posted recently an article that indicates Scientology has infiltrated many government agencies.

How long will the media ignore Scientology's covert activities? How many government agencies are sleeping with this subversive group? How can we, as a country, fight "terrorism" all around the world while ignoring our own domestic terrorists who hide under the umbrella of religious freedom just like the Islamic fundamentalist extremists?

I think there is so much going on that we never hear about and we get fed what the "powers that be" want us to have to keep us distracted from the real issues. I hate to say it, but even Freepers are "sheeple" (and I include myself in this statement), and I say this because I do not believe free press really exists anymore because what is discussed on this forum is mainly the news that is fed to us through the mainstream. And the media is savvy enough to give us enough "dirt" to make realistic.

I don't say this to infuriate, but to raise awareness. One example is the Chinagate during the Clinton Administration, it broke the news briefly, but was quickly submerged by the advent of the Paula/Monica scandals. If the mainstream news media will not carry the torch, the torch goes out quickly.

Does this make me a "conspiracy theorist"? I don't particularly believe the entire U.S. Government endorses Scientology, but I think corruptible officials with power have made deals (one example is Fred Goldberg, former IRS commissioner who sold out to Scientology, now partner with the mega-law firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom).

And as Scientology finds each corruptible, weak link in the chain of power, they gain a little bit more power for themselves. Scientology's strategy is "church" policy. And one day you and I will have no choice but to become Scientologists or be banned from society, or worse. (Actually, they'd probably hang me.)

All of L. Ron Hubbard's books are "sacred scripture," and that includes one called "Science of Survival" which states in Book I, Chapter 27 (Column Y), p. 157, that people 2.0 or lower (on Hubbard's emotional tone scale) cannot be reasoned with and the only answer is either Scientology auditing or to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow.

That goes for your grandmother, your great-aunt, your children...Do you really want to live in a Scientology world?


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So what do you think? Am I being unfair in saying that WND is not a truly "free" press? Is the Scientology issue not as serious as I think? Is the media really giving more attention to the problems with Scientology (outside of the St. Petersburg Times and newtimesla)? Should I just go back to sleep and let whatever is going to happen just take its course? (Of course, in a Scientology world THEY will be the government and sites like freerepublic.com won't exist and the courts will order Child Dianetics to be applied in all family law situations, and if you break the rules you could be tied to a tree and ordered to run around it 18 hours a day in the heat of the desert.)
1 posted on 12/19/2001 8:54:42 AM PST by memsahib
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To: memsahib
I quit taking WND seriously when they ran pictures of a supposed neutron bomb test in China. A closer look at the pictures made it clear they were rather cheesy fakes. Then I realized they were into a fear-mongering game when they and Newsmax ran all kinds of stories about Y2K while they were both selling Y2K-related merchandise - that is a serious conflict of interest for any journalistic enterprise if it wants to be objective. And now that WND is running Debka every week, they've really hit rock-bottom, and now serve to discredit internet media, something we really don't need, as it gives the mainstream media ammo against us in their efforts to downplay our effectiveness...
2 posted on 12/19/2001 9:00:01 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: memsahib
I used to read WND a lot, but all the embedded ads have turned me away.

I first heard of FR in a WND about demonstrations during the 2000 election.

3 posted on 12/19/2001 9:02:10 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: dirtboy
I started wondering when they added Hal "the world is going to end at any moment" Lindsay as a columnist.
5 posted on 12/19/2001 9:52:10 AM PST by memsahib
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
Thanks for your input. I heard about freerepublic.com mentioned in an article by Gary North. Heard anything about him? He thought Y2K was a potential disaster (though he always said he asked for proof it wasn't and proof wasn't forthcoming).
6 posted on 12/19/2001 9:54:26 AM PST by memsahib
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To: ron_paul_fan
Didn't verify her source? How embarrassing for her. Sloppy journalism will quickly kill a journalist's credibility.
7 posted on 12/19/2001 9:55:18 AM PST by memsahib
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He thought Y2K was a potential disaster (though he always said he asked for proof it wasn't and proof wasn't forthcoming).

Hey, I thought Y2K was a potential disaster, and so did a lot of major corporations - and it probably would have been a major disaster if massive system overhauls hadn't taken place - and I simply didn't believe the assurances from the Clinton Administration that everything was under control, given their propensity for lying. But it's one thing to believe that Y2K could be a problem, it's another to hype Y2K fears while your website is peddling Y2K-related merchandise...

8 posted on 12/19/2001 9:58:26 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ron_paul_fan
Editor's note: Last week's column by Ellen Makkai erroneously included a ficticious quote attributed to a person calling himself High Priest Egan of the First Church of Satan in Salem, Mass. Although the quote was found in several reputable sources and although Mr. Egan and his church are real entities, the quote apparently originated as satire in The Onion. Ellen Makkai made several attempts to contact Mr. Egan to verify the quote, but was unable to reach him until after publication. Ellen Makkai and WorldNetDaily regret the error.

I sent them an e-mail about a number of out-and-out lies in a Debka column but they never bothered with a retraction.

9 posted on 12/19/2001 9:59:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: memsahib
SP!
11 posted on 12/19/2001 10:06:34 AM PST by Plummz
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To: memsahib
Isn't Debbie Schlussel a writer for WND. Nuff said.
12 posted on 12/19/2001 10:11:31 AM PST by AsYouAre
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To: one_particular_harbour
I just did! And I've read your excellent defense of Issa in other places as well. I think WND should change her slogan to "Debbie does hit pieces". I'm as Pro-Israel as they come, but COME ON! Not everyone from Arab-American descent is deserving of having their reputation trashed.
15 posted on 12/19/2001 10:17:15 AM PST by AsYouAre
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
I receive daily e-mails from WND. All attempts to have them remove my address from their data base have failed. When I 'Reply" to their messages my mail comes back as "undeliverable" Very frustrating.
16 posted on 12/19/2001 10:20:06 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: analog
WND is full of sloppy work and personal agenda's disguised as journalism.

Agreed. That's what turned me off, too. Not to mention the addition of a kid journalist. I don't doubt he's bright, but to me it smacked a bit of exploitation.

17 posted on 12/19/2001 11:02:17 AM PST by avenir
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To: dirtboy
That's all I know about him. Is he a reliable source of information?
19 posted on 12/19/2001 12:30:18 PM PST by memsahib
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To: Plummz
Are you referring to WND or me? I am KOX SP 4+.
20 posted on 12/19/2001 12:31:30 PM PST by memsahib
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