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To: fiftymegaton
What exactly was wrong with what the fans did??

What exactly was right with what the fans did?


60,000 people yelling??-----ya it was loud.

And if only that was what it was...Trust me: I've heard louder crowd noise. I have seen real bad officiating (in my game, we call it umpiring). But the ones I have seen simply did not seize upon real or allegedly bad officiating as an excuse to behave like infants throwing their cereal bowls out of their cribs bouncing them off the walls, because Mommy gave them mere oatmeal instead of their Maypo for breakfast again, so to say.


Throwing plastic on the field??-----ya thats littering. But riot????

Let me guess: Told of gang rumbles in your youth where they used anything from cans and rocks to chains and bricks, you thought, "Ah, what's the big deal - nobody got hurt real bad and besides, they were only littering..."


Where do you come off??

Where and with whom I come off is no one's but mine and the lady who grants me the honour. Next question.


Sixty dollars for a ticket??

Incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial. I pay that kind of money to sit in a good seat for a baseball game. But I don't know where it gave me the right to do anything beyond hooting and hollering or hanging smart@$$ banners whenever I think an umpire's call was lame. The minute I begin throwing things around the stands or toward the field, I graduate from a mere fan to at minimum a public nuisance and at maximum, an inciter to riot. (If anything, they should give maximum credit to those fans who did manage to resist the lure of the brat packs.)


I think they deserve to yell and if they feel like it to throw some plastic onto the field.

I give you this from the late sportswriter Dick Young, upbraiding a similarly rowdy crowd at the ancient Polo Grounds:

You think you're something special, and maybe you are, but nobody is so special, ever, that he can take advantage. Make noise? Great. Make noise till you get laryngitis. Paint signs? Great. Paint signs till you get bursitis. But throw things and all that jazz? What sort of slobs are we raising (here)?

Kind of says it all.

Now, run along back to your playpen, sonny...
148 posted on 12/17/2001 8:15:12 PM PST by BluesDuke
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To: BluesDuke
Maybe if I thought football was a fairy game to play with flags and guys in pink dresses I would agree with you. But the fact is they dont....its a rough game and the MAJORITY of the people who go and see football games are middle class Americans who like it because of its roughness and its masculine nature. So the fans got out of hand and threw some bottles because they wanted to hear the right call and werent hearing it....that doesnt mean that they were unruly and were trying to start a riot. Listen I am sick of arguing with you guys about this because it is completely being blown out of proportion. Also saying the fans did this because they were all drunk is an overstatement in itself...if I was at the game and I was drinking a coke I still might of thrown it at these dumba***s. Look I am not going to change your mind obviously and you arent going to change my mind. But I would like to say in closing if this would have happened in Pittsburgh that our fans here would have done the same thing.(which was voice our opinion for the RIGHT result)
155 posted on 12/17/2001 8:51:32 PM PST by fiftymegaton
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