GW is holding non-citizens in indefinite detention without charges, not Americans. He has not lied. He has not shown himself to be a hypocrite. He has not started shutting down newspapers. Again, he has not arrested American citizens just to arrest them; charges are being filed against those who are actually citizens. He has not forced people to work for slave labor. Explain to me how there is a correlation at all, as Lincoln did all these evil things.
On the other hand, Lincoln didn't preside over a government containing ponzi schemes and welfare for bad art and the EPA and the Department of Education and...
Dubya didn't call up troops to invade the states that voted for Gore.
GW is holding non-citizens in indefinite detention without charges, not Americans. He has not lied. He has not shown himself to be a hypocrite. He has not started shutting down newspapers. Again, he has not arrested American citizens just to arrest them; charges are being filed against those who are actually citizens. He has not forced people to work for slave labor. Explain to me how there is a correlation at all, as Lincoln did all these evil things.
Let me be honest with you, friend. My first response was not to you but to a reply to your comment in which you called Lincoln a
bastard. I was taken aback that anyone would do that. When you came back to me with the charges regarding things that Lincoln did during the time when our country was torn apart, and I commented to you to the effect
do you think that Reagan and George W. Bush are bastards also, I was trying to establish whether your position was one of contempt for modern day conservatives as well or just contempt for Lincoln.
Being brutally honest with you and with myself I really cannot debate Lincolns actions during the 1860s, so I'm just going to have to leave it at that. As a result of a number of posts here on this thread (some directed at me, and some not), it is apparent to me that my detailed knowledge of those particular issues you bring up is lacking, and I'll have to chalk this up as a lesson in humility I guess.
I hope this is honest enough for you and any others that have posted to this thread, especially those that have posted directly to me. Thanks to all of you for your input and consideration.
Last, so as to make this a debate in which I might actually learn something meaningful, if anyone can point me to a brief summary of the actual actions Lincoln took that you have described, I would appreciate it.