Posted on 12/13/2001 7:50:35 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
STAYAWAY CHRISTIANS ALMOST COST ELECTION
Many Christians believe that prayer played a major role in sending George W. Bush to the White House, but stayaway believers came close to losing him the election, according to his chief political adviser, Karl Rove.
Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls, reported "The Chicago Tribune." Although the Bush campaign had expected 19 million evangelical voters to vote for their man, election returns revealed only 15 million turned out to cast ballots.
Speaking yesterday at an American Enterprise Institute seminar, Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune." Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."
Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on."
Your reaction is proof positive that you recognize your guilt, and that a decent shame for your responsibility is starting to work on your soul.
You've got it exactly correct, but the self-righteous prigs here would rather 'feel' right than 'do' right.
It was 83% and it is irrelevant to this discussion. Many, perhaps most, single issue pro-life voters are opposed to the illegalization of abortion in all circumstances.
You can't get a national politician elected with such views.
Again, complete bans aren't the issue here. Banning partial-birth abortion, defunding Planned (Un)Parenthood, or even tying RU486 up with further testing would more than appease these single issue voters.
But just because you can't get someone elected with 100% of your critical political stances DOESN'T mean that you should de facto deny the person with 70% support in favor of someone who only supports your positions for 40%.
The reality is that it is very unlikely that any candidate who is only 70% in favor of an issue will get more than 70% of the vote from those who base their vote exclusively on that issue. Most would rather wait for a better candidate next election cycle. This war may not last forever. Karl Rove should spend more time making sure the president supports the base and less time complaining about the social conservative wing of the party. If not, the second President Bush may also be a one term phenomena. So far it looks like history is repeating itself.
In my Church, several people voted for the demonrats because they were teachers. They are all solid, Bible-believing Christians who ALWAYS vote demonrat.
I DON'T understand how they can reconcile the demonrat agenda with their Christian beliefs, but they do. One person justified voting for clintbilly in '96 by saying he believes in divided government.
My prayer is that their eyes will be opened to the agenda of the left, and that they will understand what they are doing when they put a demonrat in office.
Like many here you can dish it out, but you can't take it. Naturally there was nothing in what I said which even approaches 'hate speech'. I repeated the punning Talibornigan name, and pointed out that the effect of your actions has the same effect as the actions of the named groups. If you do not like it, too bad for you.
As for my religious bona fides, they are none of your business, but I am a Roman Catholic.
Thank youk, thank you, coming from you that is a compliment. Does the fact that I didn't vote for Bush-41 for re-election in 1992 kind of take away from the glory of this victory of yours (I viewed the 'read my lips' pledge, and my vote for him in 1988 as a contract, he hadn't lived up to his end, so I shouldn't continue my previous mistake. Of course I didn't realize just how bad x-42 would turn out to be.)
Let us see, in the late 1950's the Republican leaders were Ike, Senators Hugh Scott of PA, and Jacob Javits of NY, Richard Nixon represented the extreme right wing, and the wave of the future was the new GOP governor of NY, Rockefeller. It is too bad that we have moved so far left of these stalwart conservative leaders you look up to.
Despite your devotion to the Big Lie technique of Joseph Goebbels, this dog won't hunt.
You have a very glorified idea of the power of the chair in the US Senate, pray tell, what makes you an expert on the rules of the Senate, is it your years of experience working there, or is it only from hours of watching CSPANII?
If you have a suggestion as to what he could or should do, then make it.
The phony righteousness here belongs to the Talibornigans. As for me, I have spent over 15000 hours on political activism, back to my leadership positions in Youth for Goldwater and YAF. I have taken part in political disputes that have put some participants into hospital emergency rooms. I have been a Congressional staff member, and a senior staff member in Gubernatorial and Senatorial campaigns in New Jersey and Virginia. I have set up rallies and conferences supporting the Vietnam War and the Reagan campaign. So what muscles have you moved, Mr. Johnny Jihad.
Yes they did. Leahy won't hold hearings on the bill.
Bush will sign a Partial Birth Abortion Ban. Bush will appoint a Pro-Lifer to the Supreme Court.
What if Al Gore had been elected due to people like yourself throwing away your vote.
The Republican party has a liberal wing, but the Conservative Wing is much stronger and much more powerful. If we let the liberal wing hijack the Republican party, then our entire nation is down the drain. It is the duty of Christians who care about our country to shore up conservative support within the Republican Party. Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Anti-Queer.
I meant compared to you, Johnny Jihad.
Just because your busy proves nothing, what have you accomplished besides contributing to global warming?
As for my actions, I never let my left hand know what my right hand is doing, why would I share anything with a stated enemy such as you? In all honesty though it sounds like you need a break.
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