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Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'
Drudge ^ | 10th December 2001 | Ananova

Posted on 12/09/2001 9:59:41 PM PST by Don Myers

Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'

The majority of young people think it is normal for a person to have at least 10 sexual partners before marriage.

A survey has also found that three in 10 believe it is acceptable for a girl to lose her virginity before the age of 15.

Research carried out by Brook, the youth sex advisory service, says there is a "cultural change" in young people's attitudes towards sex.

Some 64% of men and 54% of women agreed that it was acceptable for a person to sleep with more than 10 partners before getting married.

But the survey, which questioned people aged 17 to 25, also showed that they wanted more information about sex and contraception.

Men admitted to getting most of their knowledge about contraception from TV and magazines, while women learned the most from magazines and their mothers.

Half of all the young women surveyed said they wished that teachers had supplied them with more information about preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

Brook chief executive Jan Barlow said: "Young people have an increasing number of sexual partners and they are saying that's OK.

"But at the same time they don't have the information and access to services that they need.

"Young people must seek out advice and information in order to make their choices and to understand how to protect themselves both against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases."


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To: Dr. Frank
"Men, you see, won the (so-called) Sexual Revolution. "

Yes, the equal opportunity feminists worked so hard for "equality," that now the laws and cultural practices that habitually protected women have been nullified. And women face a dog-eat-dog world. And they are getting no sympathy from the guys. They are being used, and thrown aside when the guys get tired of using them for sex. If there is no commitment from the guys, the next good-looking chick that comes down the road is fair game for the philanderer.

201 posted on 12/10/2001 4:24:51 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Dr. Frank
Yes. That's why I think its just as bad for women as it is for men.
202 posted on 12/10/2001 4:25:33 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
"And you think a 14 year old girl, married, with children is a good thing?"

I will just say that I respect the institution of marriage and let it go at that. I have nothing to say about what happens within a legal marriage.

203 posted on 12/10/2001 4:26:15 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Or Bill Clinton's case, married philanderer. And here is Hillary, a woman who other women look up to, who just keeps taking it and taking it.
204 posted on 12/10/2001 4:27:05 PM PST by marajade
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To: Don Myers
Whatever... There is no way a 14 year old has the mental capacity to be deciding their future.
205 posted on 12/10/2001 4:27:56 PM PST by marajade
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To: LazarusX
"The problem may be with your definitions. "

Yes, terms have different meanings to different people. Some people will accept any behavior as normal as long as it makes the person feel good, or seems proper within that person's own defined sense of morality. We can accept anything as being moral. That often happens when a person has no set sense of right and wrong.

206 posted on 12/10/2001 4:30:09 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
To me Tip #1 for the girls is, IF the guy is bedding you and you do not have a ring on your finger, it is likely that you are serving the function of an inflatible doll.

While it is callous to a certain extent, I would even extend this to people who are married. The motivations for guys having sex and the motivations for girls having sex are not the same. Marriage doesn't change that fact, just the scenery. Guys trying to have children by their wives/girlfriends is a relatively rare state of mind and the only honest alternative that I can think of to primal motivation to get your rocks off (no matter how you justify this motivation).

207 posted on 12/10/2001 4:30:32 PM PST by tortoise
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To: marajade
Yes. That's why I think its just as bad for women as it is for men.

Worse, at least from a purely material perspective. The woman is now raising a child. The man has a smaller paycheck. Psychologically, as well: the woman has been abandoned and saddled with a life-changing event. The man may not give it a second thought once the whole paycheck-garnishing system has been put in place by the judge. The woman doesn't have the luxury of not giving it a second thought.

Of course, this situation (woman getting pregnant, man forced to pay child support..) is only a small percentage of the situations one ought to analyze before declaring who is worse off from a prevailing free love attitude.

I was thinking more generally, of the women out there who probably (a) read surveys like this detailing the "10 partners is normal" attitude, (b) act accordingly, and then (c) get rejected or have to settle for some jerk, because the answer a guy gives to a survey like this is not indicative of what he, personally is looking for. Get it?

208 posted on 12/10/2001 4:33:37 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: tortoise
"Marriage doesn't change that fact, just the scenery. "

That ring shows commitment, at least. Of course, if a person is the sort who doesn't honor marriage vows, it really doesn't matter. How a person acts stems from his or her own sense of proper behavior.

209 posted on 12/10/2001 4:33:46 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: marajade
And people wonder why there are so many unwanted pregnancies these days?

Spiritually pure unwed teenagers produce spiritually pure babies.

210 posted on 12/10/2001 4:35:50 PM PST by pcl
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To: Dr. Frank
Why would anyone have to settle or anything other than the best just because they might be a single mother or have had 10 partners?
211 posted on 12/10/2001 4:36:28 PM PST by marajade
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To: Dr. Frank; marajade
Guys won't normally marry a "sleep-around." And they can normally tell the difference. The sleep-arounds will have no problem getting a guy to live with them or sleep with them. But sharing a life or having babies with is a different proposition.
212 posted on 12/10/2001 4:37:02 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: pcl
"Spiritually pure unwed teenagers produce spiritually pure babies."

You are giving us your usual wierd observations of life.

213 posted on 12/10/2001 4:38:32 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
How a person acts stems from his or her own sense of proper behavior.

That is as it should be. What is not right is when someone forces their own sense of proper behavior on someone else.

214 posted on 12/10/2001 4:38:58 PM PST by pcl
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To: Don Myers
Well men are wrong. Men themselves want pure women to marry but don't care if they themselves aren't giving the woman they marry the same gift.

In other words, men are pigs (all except my husband of course).

215 posted on 12/10/2001 4:40:16 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
Why would anyone have to settle or anything other than the best just because they might be a single mother or have had 10 partners?

What are you really asking, here? Are you asking me why a guy, all other things being equal, would be less likely to want to marry a woman who already has a child, or who has slept around a lot?

What do you want me to say?

The only answer I can think of is: human nature. That's why.

Bottom line is, you're telling me that human nature has a "double standard", and you're complaining about it. Sorry, but there's nothing I can do about human nature. You're just going to have to deal with it.

216 posted on 12/10/2001 4:44:29 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Don Myers
I think you are absolutely right. And from a single woman's point of view, I'm not going to swim in dirty water either. Most single men out there are used up and empty as far as I can see. And I don't want a ready made family either. So I'm content to remain single, because it's much better than settling for a hollow man.
217 posted on 12/10/2001 4:45:37 PM PST by Aedammair
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To: Don Myers
Yes, terms have different meanings to different people. Some people will accept any behavior as normal as long as it makes the person feel good, or seems proper within that person's own defined sense of morality. We can accept anything as being moral. That often happens when a person has no set sense of right and wrong.

That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about true morality being trying not to hurt anyone and to help people when you can, rather than claiming that the rules of some religion define morality. You didn't answer my post. Is your idea of morality based on being decent to people, or on some particular religion? If it's some religion, why your religion rather than someone elses?
218 posted on 12/10/2001 4:46:11 PM PST by LazarusX
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To: marajade
Men themselves want pure women to marry but don't care if they themselves aren't giving the woman they marry the same gift.

I believe this is a true statement, generally speaking.

Which is precisely why I believe that a "free love" attitude harms women more than it does men. It exposes women to being used and abused by hypocritical double-standard-having men. ;)

219 posted on 12/10/2001 4:46:16 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Don Myers
Guys won't normally marry a "sleep-around."

Those guys are going to be having fewer and fewer choices if that stats are right. Of course, Britney Spears is a virgin from a good Christian family so the choices may not be all that bad.

220 posted on 12/10/2001 4:47:12 PM PST by pcl
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