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The AG's perpetual adoration of guns
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-7-01 | CRAGG HINES

Posted on 12/09/2001 4:24:15 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Anti-terrorism has it limits. You didn't expect it would interfere with the fancied "rights" of gun nuts, did you? With this White House? This attorney general? Get serious.

After prying loose several keystones of the Constitution in the name of fighting terrorism, John Ashcroft's Justice Department suddenly choked on giving the FBI access to the cursory federal background checks on gun buyers.

Not allowed, Ashcroft said. Want to allow it?, he was asked. Hypothetical, he said. Want to submit legislation to allow it? Happy to consider any legislation, Ashcroft digressed. Translation: Drop dead.

How predictable. Just another reason why he should never have been made the nation's chief law enforcement officer.

The FBI wanted to check whether any of the 1,200 people detained after the Sept. 11 attacks had bought guns. It was a reasonable thing to want to know.

At least two names of detainees showed up, sources said, before Ashcroft's ideological-purity assurance task force in the Justice Department ruled that the cross-checks violated the law establishing the background inquiries. A senior FBI official appealed the ruling and was told the same thing. More translation: Look, we're talking about the Republican base, so shove off.

This was, at best, a new interpretation of the law and meant that in the midst of the supposedly all-out war on terrorism, the Department of Justice adopted an unnecessarily restrictive stance.

"You're looking for new tools in every direction...," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., told Ashcroft Thursday during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. "But when it comes to the area of even illegal immigrants getting guns and finding out if they did, this administration becomes as weak as a wet noodle."

This is a Justice Department and administration that has detained hundreds of Arab and Muslim suspects on charges unrelated to terrorism, has refused to identify most of the detainees and has held many of them incommunicado, has allowed federal eavesdropping on communications between attorney and client, has moved to create military tribunals that could order executions without a unanimous vote and without real judicial review.

Some of these measures are justified and some are not. But they illustrate the administration's generally robust attitude in sailing close to the wind on due-process and other constitutional questions. But, oh mercy me, not when it comes to guns.

Ashcroft had swallowed some gnats and gagged on an AK-47. It was as expectable as it was blatant. During his years in the U.S. Senate as a Republican from Missouri (which ended last year when he was defeated by a dead Democrat), Ashcroft opposed every serious gun-control measure on which he ever voted. The National Rifle Association would say "Jump!" and Ashcroft would ask "How high?" He's brought that act into the Justice Department.

President Bush's anti-terrorism campaign, including the legal maneuvers, currently enjoys broad public support. The White House and Ashcroft know they can do about anything they want if it's pictured as a move to prevent another Sept. 11-like attack.

The numbers emboldened Ashcroft in his testimony before a generally toothless committee awed more by polls than the Constitution. (Never a real contest, you understand.) Ashcroft wasn't content to stonewall on the several legitimate due-process issues raised (ever so gently) by senators. He thought a pre-emptive bit of intimidation was in order:

"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists."

This sort of bully-boy performance should have been answered with "Have you no shame?" But the historically apposite question seemed not to come to any senator's mind. Not even when Ashcroft waggled what he said was an al-Qaeda training manual in which he said "terrorist are taught how to use America's freedoms as a weapon against us."

But what about being taught to acquire guns? Ashcroft apparently sees nothing wrong with that sort of education. The attorney general wouldn't even want the records of his own department checked to see if Osama bin Laden had bought a Saturday night special.

The stagily religious Ashcroft has always seemed to believe that Americans are too free to exercise their freedoms, unless of course it's the cherished possession of firearms -- for which he blindly refuses to see any room for possible abuse. As with many of his views, Ashcroft has only two settings when it come to guns, "off" and "zealot."


Hines is a Houston Chronicle columnist based in Washington, D.C. (cragg.hines@chron.com)


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1 posted on 12/09/2001 4:24:15 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"How predictable. Just another reason why he should never have been made the nation's chief law enforcement officer."

This is exactly why he should be this nations chief law enforcement officer! He is enforcing the second ammendment to the U.S. Constituion.

2 posted on 12/09/2001 4:28:36 AM PST by Fighting Irish
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The gun-grabbers would like nothing more than to compile a list of all gun-owners, it's there "holy grail". Once again, they demonstrate their willingness to exploit any tragedy to achieve their goals. This has nothing to do with 9-11, it has everything to do with establishing a national system of gun owner registration. If any terrorist showed up on these checks, their next move would be to call for a permanent record of purchases.
3 posted on 12/09/2001 4:32:21 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The anti-gun-nuts still believe the 9/11 attackers used firearms. Facts cannot dissuade them. After all, the violent revolutions they plan depend on heavy weapons - certainly not the boxcutters used by the Saudis.
4 posted on 12/09/2001 4:34:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fighting Irish
Anti-terrorism has it limits. You didn't expect it would interfere with the fancied "rights" of gun nuts, did you? With this White House? This attorney general? Get serious. The "rights" referred to here are no less real than those of the first amendment that protects this ink nut.
5 posted on 12/09/2001 4:35:56 AM PST by billhilly
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
IMO, Houston has surpassed San Francisco with having the most communists.
6 posted on 12/09/2001 4:39:17 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I guess this hines Varmint missed this:

Bill Offered to Give FBI Access to Gun Records

7 posted on 12/09/2001 4:45:49 AM PST by backhoe
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"IMO, Houston has surpassed San Francisco with having the most communists."

Nah--it is that one of the requirements for getting a degree in journalism is that one be a communist. ALL news media types from the smallest weeklies to the biggest dailies (and of course, all the broadcast media) seem to have only one world view--anti-gun, anti-patriotism, pro-abortion, etc.

8 posted on 12/09/2001 4:51:20 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These leftists simply refuse to get it. Oh well, it's not my job to explain it to themin order to make themselves more successful in their efforts to deconstruct the USCON.
9 posted on 12/09/2001 4:53:40 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Just imagine an attorney general bound by the constitution and the laws of the land. An attorney general who won't think it's okay to burn dozens and dozens of citizens to death in order to 'save them'. Who wont surround a home with uniformed men with assault rifles to repatriate a little six year old to a communist ruler who is our sworn enemy.
10 posted on 12/09/2001 5:05:29 AM PST by OldFriend
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And the terrorists on September 11, 2001 used how many guns?

Facts and gun-grabbers are like oil and water. You can mix them but they seperate as incompatible.

11 posted on 12/09/2001 5:09:49 AM PST by Lazamataz
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Excuse me, but wasn't the Pro terrorist hearing called because Leahy, Kennedy and Schumer were trying to spring the Mid-Eastern type detainees from the Wicked Government.

With Leahy protecting the Terrorists,Kennedy protecting the leftists,and Schumer protecting the Criminals from honest citizens ,who are trying to protect themselves, it's a wonder anything gets done.

This from a crowd, who allowed the "Government " to obtain 600 FBI files( which is against the Law),and never gave them back.

12 posted on 12/09/2001 5:12:50 AM PST by chatham
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"With Leahy protecting the Terrorists,Kennedy protecting the leftists,and Schumer protecting the Criminals from honest citizens ,who are trying to protect themselves, it's a wonder anything gets done."

I could not have said it better. It would be nice if the Republicans had the guts to state this fact in public.
13 posted on 12/09/2001 5:21:10 AM PST by GhostOfAtwater
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Can you spell "ignorant screed???" Apparently the Houston paper hires from the same group of moronic droolers as does the Milwaukee Journal...which recently ran an article quoting the Southern Poverty Law Center as "authorities" on right-wing-extremists and naming the Constitution Party (Howard Phillips' Wisconsin affiliate) as well as the John Birch Society as right-wing "extemists."

As for me, looks like the time has come to put another 200 rounds through the H&K. Preparation is EVERYTHING.

14 posted on 12/09/2001 5:36:37 AM PST by ninenot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"You're looking for new tools in every direction..."

That's right Charles, I'm in the market for an FN/FN clone in 7.62/.308.

Sorry Charlie, I'm lockin' and loadin' for the Second Ammendment.

15 posted on 12/09/2001 6:01:17 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Fighting Irish
I kinda fancy my gun nuts rights myself. Practiced with my new 9 mm yesterday...nice nutty gun.
16 posted on 12/09/2001 6:02:43 AM PST by nancetc
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Boy,the concert of hit pieces on Ashcroft continues to swell!

Say,you don't think these folks are in cahoots,do you?

17 posted on 12/09/2001 6:05:57 AM PST by tet68
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Houston Chronicle is trash.
18 posted on 12/09/2001 6:07:54 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The author doesn't appear to have read the Constitution. He'd be in a better position to criticise Ashcroft if he had, and if he weren't trying to push his own anti-liberty agenda.

For us outsiders, it's surprising to see this kind of thing coming from Texas, but this guy probably spends most of his time in Washington.

19 posted on 12/09/2001 6:12:31 AM PST by x
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