[river rat]

Travis, You sure are tenacious bull dog. ... You just never quit!
You're just going to have to learn that some folks are simply to screwed up to learn. It's a waste of time, effort and spleen strain to deal with them.. Our boy "down under" is just such a case...

Have you ever heard again from our young Gulf War "stinger" lad? I forgot his user name. I exchanged several freep mails with him - and in private conversation he comes across as VERY different from his posting persona.
Semper Fi

[Travis McGee]

I don't think that I can bring Byron around, or anyone else.

It's mainly a method to refine an arguement through logic, and hopefully reach some fence sitting lurkers.