Posted on 12/04/2001 9:53:48 AM PST by truth4all
Life sucks when you grow up in a country where there isnt enough moral fortitude or competence in your nation's Men that they would stand up and liberate their own country from tyranny.
Women are just as capable of men of organizing and pulling the triger of a gun as men. They did so as partisans in WWII and as concentration camp guards in Nazi Germany and they fought as Vietcong in Vietnam etc.etc.. People are victims or followers because that is a conscious choice they make. "Women" in beligirent countries and societies bear the children of the enemy, replace him on teh factory floor producing ordinance and are an integral part of the logistics and support structure by which a nation is able to wage war. You are living in fantasyland if you believe otherwise.
Since it's apparent that the only responce you can make in any intelligent discussion is to bring into question your opponents intelligence. I suggest that you take a self critical look at your responces before you throw such epithets at others. When someone resorts to such a debating tactic most often found in schoolyards and practiced by infants who have not yet acquired any sense of maturity or adult mmentality. I find most often it is a waste of time to engage such persons as they generally prove to be either uneducated. or of such low level of intelligence and emotional bearing that any sense of logic and reason is generally lacking.
You are either lying or being disingenuous. Your very first reply was to #4 - Paradox who simply said "War is hell, and unfortunately, mistakes are sometimes made." That's ALL he said. And you responded with some nonsense about Hitler with a picture of the murderer of millions along with it. What's up with that? And why are you lying about it now?
Yeah? Well, I'll tell you something.
I have Muslim kids in my Cub Scout pack. And they are good kids and they come from good families. And their fathers get up in the morning, pull their pants on one leg at a time, and wonder what's for breakfast just like you and I do. Just like the other billion Muslims do. And watching some of you guys casting about for justification for your hate of these people is what's really 'loathsome.'
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/agm-114.htm Hellfire
B-52s don't do hellfires. Close in weapon, b-52 is longstick, ie standoff. They carry a belly full of either dumb bombs, or 2000# laser guided. Before they racked 'em up with standoff cruise missiles.
But I gotta admit they do make an impression, so once you see 'em you see 'em everywhere.
That's a quote from Schumer during the Waco hearings, right?
Because I thought it was obscenely trite and dismissive to respond to this tragedy with such a pathetic cliche.
Now; any chance of responding to the points I raised with you, or do they make you so uncomfortable you're just going to keep muddying the waters?
Hmmm. That's a toughie. Refuting an illogical position, by using logic.
Oh well, here goes nothing : give me just one example of where Afghani women have operated as 'partisans' in this conflict, Cacique. Cause, y'know : it's kind of hard to run around in the mountains with an AK when you're wearing a burqa.
What are you talking about?
In my four years on Free Republic, I have never hit the abuse button, I have never gone to a moderator to have a thread removed and I have never complained to anybody at Free Republic ever about another member or the content that was posted. I have always fought my own battles here. If I have a problem with what somebody posts, I deal with that person directly as I have done with you on this thread in a public manner.
Why do you so blatantly lie?
No, and no. Bye-bye.
Just for starters.
However, it is irrelevant. It is not an issue in my argument. I argued that the civilian sector (including women) of an enemy population provides logistical support to the combatants. That is an irrefutable fact, an army or any fighting force cannot exist in a vacuum, it requires a support structure.
The objective in any conflict is victory and the destruction of an adversary's capacity to wage war and oppose your forces. To that end modern warfare requires the destruction of the logistical base of an enemy. That invariably means disabling the civilian capacity to give that logistical support. That in turn requires the imposition of casualties and destruction of selective civilian targets that provide that support.
The only morality in war is to win. To maximize casualties on the enemy population and minimize casualties of your own. The only rule is victory by any means necessary. That is the logic of war.
You may wish to be emotional about this matter and bring out the Judeo Christian weakness of compassion for an adversary,that is your privilidge and prerogative. I have no such scruples being an atheist.
I do not base my position on emotion based positions but simply on the practical elements involved in a war.
It is you who are illogical since you base your arguments on emotion and compassion, something that has no place in war. Magnanimity may occur once an enemy is vanquished, defeated or destroyed but it has no place while a struggle is effect.
I'm talking about an assumed connection between your repeated complaints about the images I posted, and the overnight disappearance of same, plus warnings to me from the moderator.
If those assumptions were wrong, I apologise to you.
Is that the one of Malmedy fame?
Sounds too much like plain English to have been military markings. More like the index entry from "Janes".
But Dietrich is gazing approvingly from down in Hell on some Freepers today, Mark. Can't you see him using Cacique's words in an address to the Leibstandarte Division?
The only morality in war is to win. To maximize casualties on the enemy population and minimize casualties of your own. The only rule is victory by any means necessary. That is the logic of war.
Well, our side does not usually specifically target innocent civilians, their side does, always, like in New York, maybe our latest Pearl Harbor. My mom was 21 when Pearl harbor was attacked, and she tells me that she has never seen such anger in America, since Dec 7th, 1941.
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