Posted on 12/02/2001 1:19:18 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
In the hours following the announcement of the results from last night's Houston mayoral runoff, I have heard constant reports of 'rat voter fraud in yesterday's election. Considering that Orlando Sanchez fell short of racist mayor Lee "Speaking Lessings" Brown by less than 5,000 votes, I have no doubt that this election was carried by fraud.
As I noted earlier, Lee Brown himself was not the winner last night - hatred was the true winner. Racial hatred, fraud, deception, and bigotry all won last night. Lee Brown was just the shell cover for them.
Needless to say, I am utterly disgusted at the ammount of fraud perpetrated by the Democrats yesterday. It is a continuing problem that plagues our elections, perhaps more than anything else. It is a problem that has gone on too long and is literally out of control. What the Republican Party needs to learn is that until we draw the line in the sand and put an end to voter fraud, we will continue to lose elections that rightfully should have been won.
I am calling on any and all freepers with information pertaining to ballot fraud in yesterday's Houston mayoral race to post it here and now. This information needs to be documented and publicized. I plan to inquire with the county about obtaining open records requests of sign in sheets from yesterday's elections to detect fraud and need to know specifically what precinct numbers to be on the lookout for. Any and all information is appreciated. Please post it here and post it publicly if at all possible, as it needs to be documented in a place for all to see. This problem must be stopped now.
Based on credible information I have already heard to date, there is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind what would have happened yesterday had Orlando Sanchez won. Lee Brown, Jew Don Boney (yes, Jew Don IS his real name! He's a local version of Al Sharpton in Houston), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and their gang of racist thugs would have immediately filed an election challenge and recount request to try and overturn the election. They had this planned and in the works, ready to launch if needed. In fact, I honestly believe that they would have willingly incited racial riots had they become "necessary" to ensure Brown's return to office (no, Lee Brown was not "reelected"). That is how desparate these people are, and we should never forget it.
In complete agreement there.
get a 100 republicans together in a room, and they argue about 100 different things that are important to each of them, and the principles involved in not compromising or otherwise considering the opinion of the one next to them. Some even pout and walk off because their views are not universally held to the the most minute detail.
Get a room full of rats together, they concentrate on one thing first...to win the election. THEN they argue.
It will take time, but if we can combine solid Hispanic support and maintain our edge in rural areas and hold even in the suburbs, we'll have a good shot for a while. We also need to reach out and build up a solid lead with Asians as well.
First, with all the camera technology reducing in price, why do we not go to a system where all ballot boxes are video monitored and taped on election day? Especially during the vote tabulation, totals are recorded on screen before being sent down to headquarters for verification. Quicker results, removes the ability to add votes on Loop 610. Yes there would be costs, but this would be a wise investment by the GOP, and when the Dems balk we can hit them over the head with this being the first govt expenditure they've ever been against, what are they trying to hide. Some technical and monitoring issues, but they can be worked out. Combine with cleaning the voter roles and photo id's and we've reduced a high percentage of the fraud.
Now I'm still wondering if the amount of fraud was enough to swing the election. Open minded on this either way, but it seems clear that if the GOP had turned out more of its voters, the issue would have been somewhat moot.
The fact that Houston is so spread out actually works in favor of rail, because so many are employed in the 3 downtowns and several office corridors and thus have lengthy commutes through long stretches of congestion. However, light-rail isn't the answer, but commuter rail. Light-rail is expensive(stringing all that electrical equipment and new right-of-way) at $40+ million per mile. Commuter rail, on the other hand, utilizes existing railroad corridors and so is usually around $5-10 million per mile. Thus for the same amount of money you can get 4 or 5 times as many miles. Light-rail is attractive to the Democrats because it will serve many of their inner city constituents, but commuter rail would bring in longer distance commuters from the suburbs. Who is burdened more by the current commute, someone within 610, or someone coming in from Katy, Sugarland, 1960, Kingwood, The Woodlands, Clear Lake? You are never going to get more than 15-20% on mass transit, but that frees up room for commuters not going to one of the 3 downtowns. Though it pains me to say it(given the dishonest way they implemented it, afraid of a public vote), light-rail was right for the initial line they are building(commuter rail would not effectively serve the Med Center without the light-rail as a connector, or bus connections), and perhaps an expansion to connect to the Greenway Plaza, Transco Tower, San Felipe/Post Oak areas, and a few short connections to commuter lines. It would work well as a distrubitor of inbound commuters. Other than that, go with commuter rail and serve all of the Houston metro area, not just inside the loop. But the real question is does Houston even need rail, since they have a good and growing park-n-ride system that utilizes HOV lanes to offer speedier service than a car? Wouldn't rail simply duplicate that, without the flexibility to provide more direct service to more employment centers, or would many people ride trains who wouldn't ride an express bus?
Today in a program in the Spanish radio station a very liberal democrat, Rolando Becerra, presented several Hispanics who related how Brown’s operatives had a caravan of buses to transport them to vote for Brown offering refreshments and food. Brown’s campaign was the most negative and dirty in Houston’s history and he was so sure that he was going to loose in spite of massive fraud by his operatives, that they already had filled 600 pages of complaints about irregularities committed by Sanchez’s campaign. In his propaganda on radio and television, Brown was alleging intimidation of Blacks by the Hispanics. Brown’s people were pouring gasoline in his campaign of hatred in order to inflame and provoke riots in case the election was lost.
Thank you for your thoughtful post. I don't know that Houston needs rail. I've experience three big city metro systems before. The one in D.C. is heavily used but still needs to be subsidized. In Atlanta I took the metro line from the airport to an outlying business on the line. I was told by my host that it had begun just like Houston's 7 mile "little toy train." I have to tell you, I was very uncomfortable on the 20 minute trip. There were very few people riding it (it may have been off-peak) and they were inner-city and a couple of working girls being escorted by their pimps. I was glad there was a cop on duty in the car. The tube in London is too crowded and when they go on strike the city almost shuts down.
I say toll roads are the way to go.
Indeed it is, as that was the entire purpose of this thread.
You've contributed.
And gladly so. But moreso, i've been able to collect several dozen reports from others who have their own contributions, both posted here and privately freepmailed to me. That being said, I must still say that you on the other hand have posted in significant volume on this thread, yet contributed very little to it beyond your own smug attention driven bloviations.
Look at the details you've provided in posts #23 and #119.
Glad ya finally noticed them! It's about time.
Each, by the way, in response to a patient request for you to share your reasons.
Patient request? Made by what poster?
I see a gradual move from angry muddy accusations to clear documentation of reasons
Have you then? Or is it that you simply woke up about 100 posts too late and realized that your attention starved inquiries were already being "satisfied" way back in post number 23.
with a general background motif of defensiveness and hostility.
If that has been a background motif, I know of no other place it could have arisen from but you. As the record shows, you entered this thread in a hostile manner disguised under what you professed to be "innocent" questioning but what in reality was nothing more than attention getting diversion. Up until well within the course of this thread around the 70's or 80's, I politely and patiently responded to your posts only to continually find myself greeted with additional hostility on your behalf. It was at that point, in the general concurrence of almost every other person who had posted on this thread, that I politely yet directly denounced your less than constructive motives.
If you think anything's been distorted, document it and we can correct it.
1. You have consistently and, IMHO, unfairly accused me of failing to answer or respond to your questions well into the area beyond 100 posts in this thread.
2. You now concede, under heavy criticism from your fellow posters, that I have posted a response you consider sufficient in post number 23, made only a few minutes after this thread was started.
That makes your claims I refer to in point 1 distortions. Now it's your turn to correct them.
Lee Brown can't spell his first name if he's spotted the L.
Thanks for the info!
That glare you see is the illumination from the big bulb floating above my head. Thanks for flipping the switch. :-)
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