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DEVELOPING: 'IT' REVEALED; 'SEGWAY' SELF-BALANCING PEOPLE MOVER
Drudge ^ | Dec 2, 2001

Posted on 12/02/2001 7:17:04 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort

Just a headline so far.....Matt must be writing the copy now


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To: Doc Savage
I'm only interested if you can have sex in the back seat!

That was my first concern. Great minds think alike.

81 posted on 12/02/2001 10:23:25 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Uses software. Hmm. Hope it's not Microsoft. Imagine, you're zipping along and now you throw it over to make a hard left, THIS PROGRAM HAS PERFORMED AN ILLEGAL FUNCTION AND WILL BE SHUT DOWN, Oh the humanity. Go long on Johnson & Johnson.
82 posted on 12/02/2001 10:32:16 AM PST by metalurgist
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To: theoutsideman
Reminds me of HDTV. Except without the hype that "Everybody says they want it".
83 posted on 12/02/2001 10:33:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Captain America
The real issue is shopping and the transportation of goods.

You've got to be able to haul your "stuff" around....

84 posted on 12/02/2001 10:35:16 AM PST by DB
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To: Brett66
BUT, it's the ideas incorporated into it that are important. The size and the scale can be ramped up, yes? And we already have great differences in "normal' transportation, from a moped to a diesel truck. I bet this thing catches on, and they come out with newer and bigger models eventually. Check the name, it's a "seque" into changing all transpo. Just like the first cars were single cylinder, couldn't hold much weight, and were slow. Personal computers in just 20 years. Someone has to start someplace, this might just be "it".
85 posted on 12/02/2001 10:36:58 AM PST by zog
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To: eddie willers
"That's already been built. The Lotus Europa"

And, it solves the problem of windows that can't roll down!

86 posted on 12/02/2001 10:38:53 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: HAL9000
Years ago, I was in the process of naming my company "Segue Software", until one Sunday morning, while visiting friends in Irvington NY, I opened the Sunday Times, and saw an article about "Segue Software". My heart skipped a beat or two, and then it stopped -- when I realized it wasn't talking about me, but about a startup backed by Peter Norton and another big name (which escapes me at the moment).

When I got back home, I researched the first date they used that name, and lo and behold, it was shortly before the first date that I'd used it. Groan... Needless to say, I quickly came up with a new name for my company and its main product.

So, they may have a bit of a problem with that tradmark.

87 posted on 12/02/2001 10:43:12 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Crouching Intern Stolen Sofa
"Anybody know how to pull it out of my cache?"

Put your browser into offline mode (in IE, File menu, then Work Offline). Then, go to the URL. If it's in your cache, it'll come up.

88 posted on 12/02/2001 10:46:05 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Registered
"I could'a used one of those in '82. Crashed my brand new motorcycle and had to have extensive back surgery."

I was smarter than that. I crashed an old motorcycle and only wrecked my knee. (Of course ten years later, some twit in an Olds '98 rear-ended my Chevette at an intersection, and there went my other knee, my neck, my back, and scads of other "less important" bone-cartilage junctions. Argh...)

89 posted on 12/02/2001 10:57:06 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: phalynx
"Maybe it is methane powered and each owner will have a personal recharging (collection) device so you can have enough power to make it across the street where you can pay to ride the local bus."

Wouldn't that hurt when you sat down?

90 posted on 12/02/2001 10:59:30 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: DB
"The real issue is shopping and the transportation of goods.

"You've got to be able to haul your "stuff" around...."

Buy two, and tether the second one behind as a trailer. I betcha you can link as many as you like into a train by running a "bus" cable from the lead vehicle that would serve as a controller, and daisy-chain the trailing vehicles. Just speculation, but I would not be surprised if something like happens.

91 posted on 12/02/2001 11:03:19 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Indexing.

IT_list

92 posted on 12/02/2001 11:05:20 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Looking at the rough designs and what the inventor talks about the best I can guess is that when the operator leans forward the imbalance causes a small motor to activate pushing it forward. Anyone who's ever tried to balance a baton knows that if the baton starts leaning forward the most simplistic way to keep it from falling is to move the hand in the direction it's falling in.

Also it doesn't take much energy to move since the object already has forward momentum.

It'll be a low-powered and agile glorified scooter from what I can discern.

93 posted on 12/02/2001 11:05:29 AM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Don Joe
Of course if an Olds 98 had rear ended your "Segway" you would not be worrying about trivialities like bone-cartlidge junctions...or much else at all!
94 posted on 12/02/2001 11:08:18 AM PST by HardStarboard
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To: Don Joe
>>>Buy two, and tether the second one behind as a trailer<<<

I'm thinking... lash four together for a "car" pool. A "segpool" maybe. Wonder if you could use the HOV lanes that way?

95 posted on 12/02/2001 11:11:57 AM PST by HardStarboard
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To: DB
The real issue is shopping and the transportation of goods.

You've got to be able to haul your "stuff" around....

Another issue: Security. This thing will cost several thousand dollars. that means that it will have to have a lock of some sort to prevent unauthorized use. Fine. But what about parking? It's sufficiently small that one can't leave it parked on a street overnight. Someone will just throw it into the back of a truck and drive off. For this thing to take off, it's going to need the equivalent of bike racks located whereever people want to go. In many cases, using this thing will be more hassel than it's worth.

96 posted on 12/02/2001 11:14:45 AM PST by the bottle let me down
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To: John Jorsett
Hmmm, seems from what little I've read so far, the "power" only needs to be something like a battery, which will "power" the chips/software/sensors, which control the gyros. If you allow the thing to start to "fall" forward, and then compensate to keep it from "falling", which is then translated into "motion", as we do when walking/running, very little "power" would be required, as gravity is sorta being used as the main propulsive power. That is, lean forward and gravity is pulling you "down" in a fall, but you counter that by putting your foot forward, imparting forward motion. Repeating this creates continuiing motion.

Course, so far, it seems that there would have to be some "power" to provide the movement is used to counter the fall.

All sorts of interesting speculation, most without real facts. Will be interesting to see what it actually does. But I tend to agree that the underlying technology will actually be the revolution, not the "scooter" itself.

Cancha just imagine the "scooter" it would take for the FedEx/UPS guy to take the load of boxes/packages and deliver them 10-20 miles from the distribution center? Ummmm, I think the "revolution" in that would be the massive change it would take to make the distribution process accomodate the "scooter" method of delivery... industrial strength scooters or not.

I saw a cartoon of what would be required for a cowboy to ride a horse of OSHA wrote the regulations. I seriously doubt that the licensing [functional operating worthiness, license plate, license tabs], safety requirements [air bags, seat belts, helmets, etc.], operator licensing [competence tests, fingerprints/retina scans, age limits, visual requirements, physical requirements, etc., etc.], environmental elements [freezing cold, rain, snow, obstacles, winds, etc., etc.] will make this tremendously viable method of transportation.

The ideal place for something like this would be enclosed malls, enclosed or protected areas of the cities [Las Vegas' covered street comes to mind], Disneyland/World, and those type of environments. For some reason, I just can't see this thing (scooter) working in winter Minnesota, rain soaked Seattle or Rural Anywhere. Having ridden motorcycles for years, I don't see that many motorcycles being used for massive transportation errands, even in moderate weather/terrains. Why would anyone want to submit themselves to unpredictable and hostile environmental elements with this thing? Doubt they will.

But the very first thing that popped into my head reading about the "balance/motive" part of this thing, I could see many uses in the space/aircraft industries, and in many other things that don't necessarily have anything to do with moving a "human". So maybe the underlying technology may be like the internet: something so simply innocuous and "simple" that virtually nobody could dream of the impact it has made on the world and the economy.

Isn't that pretty much how it usually works? Somebody comes up with an idea, and then serendipitously it is transformed into a world transforming technology- which nobody would have ever predicted.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years.

97 posted on 12/02/2001 11:16:01 AM PST by hadit2here
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To: Leroy S. Mort
LOL
98 posted on 12/02/2001 11:18:09 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: metalurgist
Imagine, you're zipping along and now you throw it over to make a hard left, THIS PROGRAM HAS PERFORMED AN ILLEGAL FUNCTION AND WILL BE SHUT DOWN, Oh the humanity.

ROTF!! How long before some wisea$$ hacker invents a virus to screw up your hi-tech ride? Can you download a patch to make it go faster?? heh heh

99 posted on 12/02/2001 11:19:47 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Semper911
"Cities need cars like fish need bicycles,"

I can vouch for that. I can't imagine what NYC would be like if people starting using these things.

100 posted on 12/02/2001 11:20:06 AM PST by texlok
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