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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: harrowup
You are shameless. Posting response # 3100 to this roadkill thread that is only continuing so these fools can pretend they are still posting on FR...oops, I started another damned segment of this drivel!-)
3,102 posted on 12/02/2001 3:57:15 PM PST by beowolf
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To: Arator
"It would be a mistake to presume that everyone who posts to an "AFer" board is of one mind and out to destroy FR. That simply is not true."

Well put. Thanks for posting this.

3,104 posted on 12/02/2001 4:03:02 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Howlin
thiry five cents
3,105 posted on 12/02/2001 4:04:24 PM PST by deport
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To: GalFromTheBay
That's because you make trouble. There are other people who post over there, ANV, myself, Bob, AppyPappy and they AREN'T accused of being antifreepers. In fact I have publically defended two people, Arator and Callahan who I do not believe are antifreepers. However, you went over I believe to complain, because you were banned from FR at the time. I think you were banned for provoking some freepers on this website, who also happened to be going on our cruise and posting on the cruise thread, so maybe that is why you were/are hostile about the cruise. Who knows.
3,106 posted on 12/02/2001 4:04:52 PM PST by diotima
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
see post 3106.

Good to see you here. ;^)

3,107 posted on 12/02/2001 4:05:54 PM PST by diotima
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To: GalFromTheBay
merely being present on an anti-FR board was NEVER the complaint; the behaviour of those on the given AF board WAS.

Well, there's the problem for YOU, isn't it? You WERE, in fact, criticizing people on FR and the forum itself, were you not? Care to deny it?

3,108 posted on 12/02/2001 4:09:02 PM PST by Howlin
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To: deport
Jim can probably go ahead and order that Benz now, don't you think? :-)
3,109 posted on 12/02/2001 4:10:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I can't remember exactly what she was doing over there, I tried to search the Delphi Archives yesterday but they really suck so I couldn't find her posts. I believe she may have been banned or "time-outed" on FR but I can't confirm that. I'll try again to search.
3,110 posted on 12/02/2001 4:11:15 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
I'll take that as a CLUE.
3,111 posted on 12/02/2001 4:11:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: diotima
It was back when JenLart was there, I remember that much.
3,112 posted on 12/02/2001 4:12:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: incindiary
"There is a difference between banned Freepers who may disagree w/ your policies.... and hateful anti-FReepers whose goal is bring down Free Republic."

Thank you for posting this. I agree totally.

3,113 posted on 12/02/2001 4:20:15 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Howlin
I don't want to remember that....LOL.

Problem is that...Jen was there..but WHICH Jen she had about twenty screen names. It was fun when they talked to each other.

3,114 posted on 12/02/2001 4:20:48 PM PST by diotima
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan; diotima
By the way, Harry, in case I haven't already said it: it's good to have you back here, man.
3,116 posted on 12/02/2001 4:23:40 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Howlin
Hell, I'd go for buying out the defunct Enron Corp.... Go for the prize gilt.....
3,117 posted on 12/02/2001 4:25:23 PM PST by deport
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To: diotima
but WHICH Jen she had about twenty screen names

And the personalities to go with them. She should have just signed up as Sybil.

3,118 posted on 12/02/2001 4:26:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You're welcome, and btw, I'm glad to see you here, too!
3,119 posted on 12/02/2001 4:26:38 PM PST by incindiary
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To: GalFromTheBay
Don't you have some papers to file somewhere?
3,120 posted on 12/02/2001 4:27:16 PM PST by Howlin
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