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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: IronJack
During the recent Caribbean Conference, a number of generous FReepers donated goods and services to the attendees. This whole site depends on generosity, and the giving spirit of Free Republic has never failed yet.

But but but, I thought the cruise was for the Radio Network and the Radio Network is part of the other FR which has nothing to do with this FR. (grin) Ok...low blow. I'm sorry It's obvious I'm getting punchy and need some fresh air. All these entities are swirling in my mind and no, sorry to the guy with the charity/trust info. Mea culpa. I didn't read everything and my estimation of charity status is worth what you paid for it.

Later...

2,881 posted on 12/02/2001 8:44:08 AM PST by A_dutiful_daughter
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To: Z2
Yes, I did. This is NOT a charity.
2,882 posted on 12/02/2001 8:45:31 AM PST by Howlin
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To: unsycophant
TotalPsycho, JR started this thread and invited some antis over to ask questions regarding Free Republic. For your convenience, I've started a thread on AFWA for the questions you're raising. Please post them HERE so as not to clutter up an already very long thread with unrelated topics.

Thanks in advance.

2,883 posted on 12/02/2001 8:48:01 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: unsycophant
I wasn't a partner in TTC (which isn't offshore, BTW) and didn't contribute any money to it. The other issues you raise (most of which are innacurately stated or ascribed to me) are designed to incite a flame war to disrupt this discussion, which Jim invited. This is your specialty, and one you've been invited to engage me in over at AFWAA. Drop by and ask me anything you like.

I'll open a thread over there called "Is Antifreeping a Fraud? Is it time for AFWAA to go away?" See ya there!

2,884 posted on 12/02/2001 8:52:32 AM PST by Z2
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To: aligyrl-02
Can you direct us to anywhere -- anywhere -- on the internet that you post anything other than anti-freeper stuff?
2,885 posted on 12/02/2001 8:54:00 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Jim Robinson
Howlin, I do believe you missed the whole point of Justin's post, dear. Reread it, slowly this time, and then if you still don't understand it, perhaps we can spell it out for you.

Jim, I'm in receipt of two emails from Clarity. I'm awaiting word from him as to whether he has any objections to me posting them. If I get ok, would you be opposed to them being posted here for you comments?

Thank you.

2,886 posted on 12/02/2001 8:56:08 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: aligyrl-02
I love the smell of hypocrisy and fried spam in the early afternoon.

Did you get shamed into crawling out from under your rock?

2,887 posted on 12/02/2001 8:56:47 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: A_dutiful_daughter
Do you speak for Mr Robinson?

No. I speak from my own experience with Joe, Jim, and the rest of the hardworking, dedicated, and largely unrecognized people who make this forum the champion of honorable conservatism.

2,888 posted on 12/02/2001 8:57:10 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack
Not just sworn enemies, bitter enemies, who have no desire for truth, justice, or even mostly the American Way. They've had the truth for a long period of time, but it does not meet their agenda. (Which is to bicker, flame, infight, and prove their worth and merit to each other, and justify their life-long internet addiction.)

Having said that, you're wrong if you think people should't be aware of "antifreeper" activities and efforts to undermine and destroy a site like Free Republic. In fact, their behavior resembles radical leftists, and there isn't one person at this site who shouldn't be made aware of just how far radicals will go to further their agenda. They will do almost anything to accomplish their goals, no matter what principles have to be compromised. They have none, in fact. Ethics? No. Morals? No. People like this represent a mindset in our country today, and it is that mindset that a lot of us think helps erode our culture.

You may think it's a waste of bandwidth and time to point it out, but not everybody does.

2,889 posted on 12/02/2001 8:57:18 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: A_dutiful_daughter
Yeah you sound new to me.........WHATEVER.

People that participate on FR (thats a FReeper for those that are pretending to be "new" and "just stopping by" and "helping out their mother") are not allowed to engage in ANY OTHER ACTIVITES sponsored by other groups or else it means the organizations are not seperate....gimme a break.

Give it up.

2,890 posted on 12/02/2001 8:58:40 AM PST by diotima
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To: aligyrl-02
You'd make a good drummer. Double on the bump.

For the thread "Top Ten Brahmin Fusion Drummers," see tomorrow's FR.

2,891 posted on 12/02/2001 8:59:34 AM PST by alcuin
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To: unsycophant
Hell Lord (no pun intended there, LOTF) Clinton didn't do anything like use the IRS against his enemies...oh whoops he did. Looks there is more in common between the AFers and the Sinkmeister than we thought...maybe they are leftists.
2,892 posted on 12/02/2001 9:03:00 AM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
All these separate identities had me confused, too, until BobJ explained them to me on the cruise. I now know the low-down, but I leave it to you, he and other knowledgable people to explain it publicly.

To the others posting here, I'm no fool, and the non-connections between FR, FR Network and individual chapters has been explained to my satisfaction.

2,893 posted on 12/02/2001 9:03:32 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: diotima
I think it's axiomatic that there is more in common between FReepers and anti-FReepers than there is between either and the democraps.
2,894 posted on 12/02/2001 9:05:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: unsycophant
You may think it's a waste of bandwidth and time to point it out, but not everybody does.

How often? Every month? Every day? I've seen this same stinking, fulminating, merry-go-round thread a hundred times since I came to this forum. Nothing ever gets resolved, nothing new ever comes to light. But we spend 3,000 posts hashing over the same stale material. And in the end, Free Republic goes back to business, the trolls go back under their bridges, FR grows steadily, and acid eats holes in the opposition's stomachs. Then, a month or two from now, their ulcers flare up and they come in with the same vitriol and we indulge the same stupid exercise all over again.

When is enough enough?

2,895 posted on 12/02/2001 9:06:08 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Cyber Liberty
We are waiting to finalize some things before a big announcement is made on the forum and press releases go out. Suffice it to say, the only people worried about it are the same people who spend all their time shredding urine stained paper while they post on their AF sites.
2,896 posted on 12/02/2001 9:06:10 AM PST by diotima
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To: aligyrl-02
Jim, I'm in receipt of two emails from Clarity.

Nice to see you admitting your complicity in Clarity's breech of attorney-client privilege.

2,897 posted on 12/02/2001 9:06:35 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
We're now pulling only the very worst and issuing fewer warnings and banning or suspending only on the worst offenses

Thank you, Jim. imho that would be ideal. I appreciate your reply.

2,898 posted on 12/02/2001 9:07:04 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Jim Robinson
Just seemed like the thing to do. I do not care much for anti-FReepers. In case you didn't know, they put in one helluva a lot of time in their activism project, and their only goal and purpose in life is to kill off this website.

Jim, I offered to voluntarily abstain from any further FReeping on your forum out of deference and courtesy to you. I would appreciate it if you did not take advantage of my offer by lying about me behind my back.

So, I hope you will allow me a quick refutation then I will, as promised, return to voluntary exile.

Just seemed like the thing to do. I do not care much for anti-FReepers.

I am not an anti-FReeper. I do not desire this website's destruction. I only wish it were a place where freedom is valued and FReepers were treated with the respect they deserve.

In case you didn't know, they put in one helluva a lot of time in their activism project, and their only goal and purpose in life is to kill off this website.

"Their activism project"? What the heck is that? Who's "they" and what on earth is their "activism project". Whatever it is, I am not a party to it.

I am just a FReeper who, like many FReepers, after being forcably cut off from friends in a community I value, found ways to maintain contact with same. I set up my own forum, and because I value free speech, I made it open to all comers, including the so-called AFers. And when, due to the limitations of Delphi software and attacks from multiple quarters, that forum failed, the Reunion community continued on as two new Delphi forums, FRU Reunion and Reunion Reformation, the former primarily populated by my Brigadier freinds, the latter by so-called AFers.

Your insistance on lumping us all together as AFers really goes to the crux of the difference between us. You seem to require agreement with yourself before you will even think about making anyone your friend. So, you assume if I am friendly with so-called AFers, I must be just like them and we all must think just alike, just like you demand that everyone think just like you in your circle of associations.

But, that's not the way I work, Jim. I am friendly with and value folks who DON'T think just like me. That's what made FR such an attractive and compelling place for me. So, the fact that I am friendly with and associate with AFer's doesn't make me one, any more than it makes them a "whack-job kooky Bircher/Brigadier", as they like to call me at times.

See, Jim, I know it's an amazing concept for you, but people who disagree on things can actually enjoy each others company and even be friends. Such is the case, with myself and many (though certainly not all) so-called AFers.

And with that, I shall return to my voluntary exile.

2,899 posted on 12/02/2001 9:09:24 AM PST by Arator
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To: Cyber Liberty
Well, the Pesk is an admitted leftist. The "I know better than you" attitude from the other AFers regarding the administration of this website smacks of the nanny state the demonscraps want to have.
2,900 posted on 12/02/2001 9:10:02 AM PST by diotima
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