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Police insist interviews illegal , (Portland, Or. Police Chief)
The Oregonian ^ | 11/28/01 | MAXINE BERNSTEIN and MARK LARABEE

Posted on 11/28/2001 8:09:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave

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To: JustAnAmerican
Prior to the rewrite...

Read the gray and the red.
Then read the gray and the blue.

Thank you very much for wasting our taking the time to write. Oregon State Law prohibits local police from questioning poor innocent immigrants when there is no information at all on their background even at the INS evidence they are connected to a crime and criminality foreign citizenship is the only grave concern issue, therefore if local police took part in this, we would be totally un-PC breaking the law. We do not want to cooperate with the US Attorney's Office should they be willing to modify some of the questions that pose a problem under the state law. Again, I appreciate you wasting our taking the time to write me.

21 posted on 11/28/2001 9:03:36 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: mxbluto
So this would be like grabbing and interrogating everyone on a Harley, every chance they got because some Bikers sell drugs.

No, this would be like a mass murder being commited by someone with long hair and a beard riding a Harley and all guys with long hair and beards who own Harleys in that neighborhood being voluntarily asked to provide information.

Put your thinking cap on and try a more effective argument.

22 posted on 11/28/2001 9:12:10 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: aculeus
You posted, "If, God forbid, we have another 9-11 or worse, these Quislings will wish they had acted differently.

We were on vacation on the coast of Oregon when the 9/11 mass murders occured. We drove from Shalisan to Brookings, Oregon after checking out. We spent the night in Brookings. Things got a little exciting around Portland the next day!

The next day, the Portland Airport was closed due to some situation. Apparently one or more person was apprehended, and that has been kept quiet. F15's flew up the coast to circle the greater Portland Area/Airport. There were some Feds staying at the motel in Brookings, on 9/11. They got a phone call via the motel operator, to immediately throw their stuff into their Suburbans and drive to the Portland area while wearing their guns with their cell phones on to receive calls. The motel operator said that they were some concerned guys.

Without going into the targets of opportunity for Islamic Terrorists, the Portland area has some strategic targets. What ever happened to that one or two or ? people arrested at the Portland Airport on 9/12? Are they being shielded/protected by these left wing extremists in Portland?

During the Reagan years when we were cracking down on the communists trying to take over governments in Central and South America to kill people like Mao, Fidel and Uncle Joseph. San Francisco and Berkeley made their cities sancturies for these communists. They came up raised funds and sent the funds back down to kill people. They were totally protected by the mayors and police chiefs of San Francisco and Berkeley!

The left wing maggots who control Portland, Or. have sent the same signal to all Islamic Terrorists and in fact any terrorists, including their homegrown enviral terrorists living in Oregon! Come to Portland and plan your terrorist acts, and we will protect you!

23 posted on 11/28/2001 9:19:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: JamesinGA
Are you dumb enough to think the Constitution is a suicide pact?
24 posted on 11/28/2001 9:21:15 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: thorshammer
thor posted, "Portland "The City of Bridges" a prime target. If those bridges come tumbling down, their commerce will be gone.

Do you think they would repond then?

The first thing these left wing socialists would do is simple. Katz and her fellow maggots would fly to DC to beg GW for loans and grants to save the maggots in Portland from starvation! Then, if Katz got any money, they would spend 20 Billion$'s to rebuild a bridge that you and I could rebuild for $5 billion! Every affirmative action group of maggots and enviral group of maggots would be standing in line with gunny sacks to take their take!

25 posted on 11/28/2001 9:28:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: DoughtyOne
< New Improved >  < heh heh heh >

Prior to the rewrite...

Read the gray and the red.
Then read the gray and the blue.

Please quit Thank you very much for wasting our taking the time to write. We have a real problem with Oregon State Law prohibits local police from questioning the our very intelligent, poor innocent, salt of the earth and very productive immigrants when there is no information at all on their background even at the INS evidence they are connected to a crime and terrorism foreign citizenship is the only grave concern issue, therefore if our socialist bastion of a city local police took part in this, we would be totally un-PC breaking the law. We do will not want to cooperate with the US Attorney's Office should they be willing to modify some of the questions that pose a problem under the state law. Again, please quit I appreciate you wasting our taking the time to write me, you jerk.

26 posted on 11/28/2001 9:30:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Bikers4Bush
Drop some Daisycutters on Portland. After all, we are in a zero tolerance, if you are not for us you are against us, we will not distinguish between the perps and their protectors...kind of people
27 posted on 11/28/2001 9:32:58 AM PST by Orion
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To: Grampa Dave; thorshammer
Well Grampa Dave, ya beat me to the punch.

Except you said it better than I would have.

28 posted on 11/28/2001 9:36:09 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Madame posted, "Well Grampa Dave, ya beat me to the punch.

Except you said it better than I would have."

Thanks for your kind words. However, your way with words is excellent! Glad to be on your side in this issue!

29 posted on 11/28/2001 9:46:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: AAABEST
What a great response to this programmed mantra! So great it must be reposted:

Programmed Mantra: "So this would be like grabbing and interrogating everyone on a Harley, every chance they got because some Bikers sell drugs."

Your response: "No, this would be like a mass murder being commited by someone with long hair and a beard riding a Harley and all guys with long hair and beards who own Harleys in that neighborhood being voluntarily asked to provide information.

Put your thinking cap on and try a more effective argument."

It is amazing what happens when common sense confronts a mantra!

30 posted on 11/28/2001 9:57:04 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: JustAnAmerican
Thanks for taking your time to write to these left wingers.

Now after reading this latest article with the real lawyers reading what John Ashcroft wants, it is evident that the left wing maggots in Portland did not read what he wanted.

Instead they acted like the left wingers are acting throughout the country from Sen. Leahy/DASSHOLE to these maggots in Portland.

They deliberately lied to you and others who took time to write to them!

Thanks for being AnAmerican in this issue!

31 posted on 11/28/2001 10:01:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: LibWhacker
Are you dumb enough to think the Constitution is a suicide pact?

That is a non sequitur. It is a convenient catch phrase that has absolutely nothing to do with your statement supporting the use of military tribunals to try political enemies of a president, as opposed to actual enemies of the state.

Your nonanswer affirms your support for America being like Argentina or Chile or Panama -- a Banana Republic, not a Free Republic.

32 posted on 11/28/2001 10:59:19 AM PST by JamesinGA
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To: Grampa Dave
Bush and Ashcroft are doing their best to PROTECT the people of this country. What they get is a bunch of grief and criticism from the whiners. Justice dictates that a list be made up of the whiners and when it comes time that resources are required to protect then these whiners will be at the bottom of the list. Let's protect those who are "with us" first and let those who "are against us" be last. Sounds fair to me.
33 posted on 11/28/2001 12:50:17 PM PST by Kangaroo Court
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To: dixiechick2000
the basic question is does the attorney general have the power to trump the 4th amendment without consent of 2/3s of the states required in a constitutional convention.
34 posted on 11/28/2001 2:32:48 PM PST by rottweiller_inc
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To: JamesinGA
That is a non sequitur.

It was a question, maroon, not an inference. Don't use terms you don't understand; you'll look even more foolish than you really are.

Look . . . Jimmy Carter, I'd love to stick around and give you a lesson in logic, but I don't have the luxury to waste my time on someone who is so obviously incapable of learning the subject. But the important thing for you to understand here -- namely, your support for our enemies, and those who would give them aid and comfort -- is noted.

35 posted on 11/28/2001 2:51:57 PM PST by LibWhacker
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