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Poooooooorrrrrrr Soon-ERS!

Sorry, that was bad sportsmanship, but it felt SO good! That having been said, Colorado could very well beat Texas this weekend. Glad that I'm not a betting man. They may be playing the best ball in the country, but an opening game loss to Fresno State(decided in the final minute) will virtually eliminate them from playing for the nat'l champ. Just goes to show what a sick stupid joke the Bull Crap System is, WE NEED A PLAYOFF, otherwise it is a Marxist system, based on popularity, emotion, myths, and subjectivity, not facts(actual head to head games). But hey, guess that's payback for Colorado's bogus nat'l championship(can you say 5th down? 2 losses and 1 tie that season, and a phantom clip in the Orange Bowl).

But if the Longhorns do win, given the present system they have a better claim than Florida to play in the Rose. A loss to the defending Nat'l Champs, versus a loss to a mediocre Auburn, they should never have jumped Texas. Florida has always been somewhat fraudelent, when's the last time in the regular season that they played a good team outside of conference or the state of Florida? Sure Texas non-conference schedule was down this year, but they did have North Carolina, a top 10 team when scheduled, and one that beat FSU handily and is bowl bound. Big 12 is better than SEC this year. But like Notre Dame, tie goes to Florida teams. Remember how last year so many in the media were wondering how Oklahoma could in any way keep up with oh so mighty FSU? But at least FSU will usually schedule a quality non-conference opponent, and isn't afraid to travel to places such as NJ and Michigan. Same for Miami, lame conference notwithstanding, they'll go all the way to Seattle. That's something I've always respected in Michigan and Notre Dame, and usually Texas and Tennessee. But not Florida(who dropped Miami). Even Nebraska upgraded its non-conference. And no crying about how tough the SEC is, since Tennessee handles it and travels to places such as Syracuse and South Bend. So if you can't already tell, I have no respect for the Florida program, and will root for any team BUT them, even Miami. When they quit hiding and trade a game against the Poor Blind Sisters U. in the Swamp for a road trip to Oregon, Stanford, or UCLA, I'll change my tune.

34 posted on 11/26/2001 12:24:33 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
But if the Longhorns do win, given the present system they have a better claim than Florida to play in the Rose. A loss to the defending Nat'l Champs, versus a loss to a mediocre Auburn, they should never have jumped Texas.

Take a look at Texas' schedule. They didnt have to play Nebraska or K State. They got the "easy draw" from the Big 12 this year. If UF plays AU in the SEC championship, and beats them soundly, will you change your mind?

Florida has always been somewhat fraudelent, when's the last time in the regular season that they played a good team outside of conference or the state of Florida?

When's the last time that the SEC was not one of the top two conferences? Not in recent history, maybe never. Oh, and they played Marshall, who only lost to Florida(went 10-1). Seems Marshall is ranked higher than FSU this year. Are the pollsters wrong?

Sure Texas non-conference schedule was down this year, but they did have North Carolina, a top 10 team when scheduled, and one that beat FSU handily and is bowl bound.

North Carolina has not been ranked in the top 10 for several years. They were ranked in the top 25 once this year. The otehr non-conference teams Texas played have losing records I believe.

Florida beat a good Marshall team. They destroyed LSU and South Carolina on the road in two places where it is tough to play. Georgia is no slouch, and neither is Auburn. FSU is always tough regardless of record. Texas lost to the best team they played, and unless UT beats Florida Saturday, you wont be able to say that about the Gators.

39 posted on 11/26/2001 12:42:10 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: Diddle E. Squat
But if the Longhorns do win, given the present system they have a better claim than Florida to play in the Rose. A loss to the defending Nat'l Champs, versus a loss to a mediocre Auburn, they should never have jumped Texas.

BS. For Florida to get there, they beat Tennessee on Saturday and then the West champ the next week in the SEC game. Texas has a weak (at best) schedule, only bolstered by beating Colorado twice (if they do) and to a much lessor extent A&M at College Station (although this is a small factor since A&M -- and I'm an Aggie -- sucks, but...playing in College Station is a nightmare for anyone). Texas beat Colorado and Tech (at home), lost to OU, and didn't play anyone in the North worth a crap. Their non con schedule would make a JV high school coach excited.

If the NCAA isn't going to adopt a playoff, I wish they would at least come up with a BCS formula that severely penalizes teams like Texas for not playing a quality non-conference opponent. This is essentially done in hoops and, to their credit, the t.u. hoops team has responded and played good teams.

51 posted on 11/26/2001 1:06:32 PM PST by 1L
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Boy, what a torturously constructed scenario. If Tallahassee was fifteen miles farther north, your house of cards would crumble. Year in and year out Florida plays a top 10 schedule. When the best football is played in the South, why go elsewhere?

On another point, FSU's joining the ACC has eliminated its traveling, eight ACC games plus Miami plus Florida leaves just one game and it has to be at home. Your example is ten years old.

Your selective facts are amusing. Colorado is not out because they lost to Fresno State early, it's because they lost to Texas five weeks ago. That's two losses.

Even though you're probably too dim to understand it, here's the math. Florida stopped playing Miami in 1988 when the SEC added a seventh conference game. UF had sold bonds for the '82 stadium expansion based on six home games. With the Georgia game in Jax and FSU home-and-home, it left only two games, both of which had to be home games. Miami, not surprisingly, declined to come to Gainesville every year. Other than Texas-Oklahoma, nobody else plays a significant neutral site game every year.

Despite the bonds, in '90, in Spurrier's second action (the first was to reinstall grass) was to try to schedule Miami. Guess what? The SEC added an eighth conference game. Florida played Syracuse on the road in '91, the year before the SEC went to two divisions.

To finish off your misinformed post: in '02 and '03 when the NCAA allows twelve games, guess who UF scheduled? That's right - Miami.

You're no fan, you just love to hate the success of others.

55 posted on 11/26/2001 1:14:42 PM PST by FirstFlaBn
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Florida has always been somewhat fraudelent, when's the last time in the regular season that they played a good team outside of conference or the state of Florida? Friend forgive me, but that is one of the most ignorant statments that I have read lately. What does it matter, the SEC is and has been one of the toughest confrences in the country and the state of Florida is the bomb when it comes to college football, like it or not, there it is. GO GATORS
72 posted on 11/26/2001 1:54:28 PM PST by Ferndina
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Let me try again. I'll do it in steps.

1. 11 games. (Still with me?)

2. 7 conference games, home and home, plus FSU. That's eight total, or four home games every year.

3. Georgia in Jax. That makes nine games total.

I know this is getting tricky for you, but hang in there.

That leaves two games.

If your financial obligations require six home games and you have four committed through SEC and FSU, guess how many you need to get to six. That's right! Two. Which means no road games available outside FSU and the SEC. Can you tell me any major team that doesn't play six (or more) home games?

See, it's not really that complicated when somebody holds your hand through it, is it?

It's not only my opinion that the SEC year after year plays the best ball. If they didn't, the network guys who get paid millions of bucks to get ratings wouldn't pay the most to the SEC. Check the figures, the SEC consistently ranks first in TV money, even though the natural TV market for the PAC10 and Big Ten is larger. What does this mean? It means more people around the country are interested in watching the SEC teams play.

I'm beginning to sense you're a Colorado fan upset with the bad luck of scheduling a pushover game to open with and having it turn out that team is better than expected. If so, I sympathize. In '91 Florida played at Syracuse, a team that had been so-so for awhile. Didn't work out. UF's only loss in the regular season. So it goes.

A sixteen team playoff would be stupid. It would include BYU and a few 8-3 teams from the big conferences. TV money is why the game is so big, and TV would never risk the fluky chance of losing an 11-0 team from a big TV market in the first round to reward either a team that played a chump schedule or a team that lost twice early and again late.

I get upset sometimes with TV's power, sitting in the stadium through endless commercial breaks and ever-changing start times, but he who pays the piper calls the tune. The current system is the best possible considering these realities.

105 posted on 11/26/2001 3:20:04 PM PST by FirstFlaBn
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