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No Federal Charges for Atlanta Football Fan in Airport Security Breech
Newsday ^ | 11/18/01

Posted on 11/19/2001 11:43:39 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ATLANTA -- A man who dashed through a security checkpoint at the nation's busiest airport, forcing officials to halt flights and evacuate passengers, will not face federal charges, prosecutors said Monday.

Michael Lasseter did not violate any federal laws because he did not board an airplane, and because the screening station guards are not federal agents, said Patrick Crosby, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office.


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To: lepton
If you'll note, only the most serious of traffic offenses are actually classified as crime.

Very true. I think the speed limit is a guideline but you're really supposed to go with the flow of the traffic and road conditions. If everyone is going 75 and the speed limit is 60, it's not really safe to go 60, but if it's raining and everyone's going 25, you can't go 60 just because the sign says you can.

Just like red lights, if you are out on some deserted road at 3 am or in an area of carjackings, it's stupid to sit at a red light when there's no traffic.

141 posted on 11/19/2001 5:03:12 PM PST by FITZ
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To: SBeck
if you think Dick Nixon was a liberal.

Well, that's quite a tangent, but a case certainly COULD be made: Gas rationing, price controls, continuing to tie the hands of our armed forces... :)

142 posted on 11/19/2001 5:04:58 PM PST by lepton
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To: MoDeadTaliWhackers
Off with their head?

It could come to the point where some tall child or person with early stages of Alzheimers will be confused in an airport and be shot dead for no good reason.

143 posted on 11/19/2001 5:06:56 PM PST by FITZ
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To: SBeck
Lots since I'm a pilot. Of course, us pilots are sticklers when it comes to regulations seeing as complying with them keeps us 1) employed and 2) alive.

Yes, that's your job. You are paid to know. He's a customer who's bought a service. Hardly comparable...but that's another issue.

144 posted on 11/19/2001 5:07:15 PM PST by lepton
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To: SBeck
Not too keen on things like Federal Aviation Regulations are we?

You see, people like you are really annoying to discuss things with. You are a pilot, so you know the regulations. Rather than simply say "Gee, Rodney, regulation 123 says this, so they really did act approprately" you instead tried to insult me.

If everyone behaved as you do, this would not be a fun place. When people are talking about things relating to the construction industry, I don't say "Oh, I see you are not to keen on section 34-a of the building code, are you?"

No, I say "Well, gee the law says this.."

People who are experts on the stock market(my old profession) don't say "well, you're not to keen on section 56-4f of the securities and exchange act of 1934, are you?" they would say "well, the law says this..."

So, either post the damn code as a source of information, so that if we are wrong we can be corrected, or shut up. We know you are a pilot, god bless you, but you do not need to keep impressing us with your knowledge of the federal code.

145 posted on 11/19/2001 5:08:55 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: SBeck
Sorry, arming an air crew sounds like a reasonable idea unless you're trying to fly an airplane at the same time as ward off a determined group of hijackers.

Do you recall what the pilots were doing when one of the aircraft was taken over? In the back of the plane, unarmed, dealing with unruly passengers who were killing a stewardess. In addition to that, a firearm would be a great benefit to dealing with someone who is trying to get past that armored door. It's one thing to trash it unopposed, and another to do so while dealing with a threat. Another caveat: Don't most of the big planes have co-pilots?

146 posted on 11/19/2001 5:12:44 PM PST by lepton
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To: ctdonath2
Ferget punishing this guy, they should give him a $1000 reward for demonstrating how bad security is there.

Yes that's a good idea. The busiest airport in the US can't quickly apprehend a person running through their security. Lucky for everyone this guy was innocent, but if he had been carrying a bomb or some anthrax or boxcutters, he could have gotten very far, even booked a flight and very possibly got on a plane.

147 posted on 11/19/2001 5:15:54 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Very true. I think the speed limit is a guideline but you're really supposed to go with the flow of the traffic and road conditions. If everyone is going 75 and the speed limit is 60, it's not really safe to go 60, but if it's raining and everyone's going 25, you can't go 60 just because the sign says you can.

Just like red lights, if you are out on some deserted road at 3 am or in an area of carjackings, it's stupid to sit at a red light when there's no traffic.

With the last, you show that you understand.

As to the first, it's considered recklessness. You are ACTUALLY endangering people directly. It's not just because you aren't following the rules.

148 posted on 11/19/2001 5:16:41 PM PST by lepton
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To: Rodney King
Nope, I won't post the regulation because I assume a higher level of education here than elsewhere and therefore 1) you can use a search engine or 2) go to the FAA web site, the repository of all FARs.
149 posted on 11/19/2001 5:17:55 PM PST by SBeck
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To: lepton; SBeck
Here is CFR 14 Part 107 sub section 108.

I can't tell yet, but it looks like 100's of pages. I guess I have a lot of reading to do before my next flight.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_01/14cfr108_01.html

150 posted on 11/19/2001 5:19:02 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: lepton
Another caveat: Don't most of the big planes have co-pilots?

ALL transport-class (airline) airplanes big or small MUST have two pilots. It's the law. Some also require other mandatory flight crewmembers, usually flight engineers. Almost all F/Es are pilots.

Most business jets also require two pilots.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

151 posted on 11/19/2001 5:19:37 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: SBeck
Nope, I won't post the regulation because I assume a higher level of education here than elsewhere and therefore 1) you can use a search engine or 2) go to the FAA web site, the repository of all FARs.

You really assume that everyone else knows CFR part 14 section 107 FAR 108? And if not we are not highly educated enough for you? I'll bet you don't have very many friends, you are a very unlikeable person. Are you capable of conversing people without insulting them because they don't know your precious regulations?

152 posted on 11/19/2001 5:20:45 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: SBeck
Nope, I won't post the regulation because I assume a higher level of education here than elsewhere and therefore 1) you can use a search engine or 2) go to the FAA web site, the repository of all FARs

Hey, Mr. Know-it-all. So what subsection of FAR 108 is the relavent sentence? I think you are not posting it because you are bluffing and you don't know. Let's see. You have two minutes.

153 posted on 11/19/2001 5:24:52 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: Prodigal Son
Prodigal Son, ole' kid--perhaps you didn't see the earlier accounts of this escapade. The passenger did NOT merely run down an up escalator. He was trying to avoid going through the security check again. Supposing that while he was OUTSIDE security, someone had handed him a gun or a knife, and that he was then attempting to board an airplane. The security people had no way to know so they "blew the whistle " on him.

We complain about security being too lax, and now we complain when they (not YOU) do their jobs.

154 posted on 11/19/2001 5:26:04 PM PST by kitkat
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To: SBeck
2) go to the FAA web site, the repository of all FARs

now, now. You are wrong. I assumed a higher level of education than that. When you click on the FAR's from the FAA website, it redirects you to another site. Some repository.

155 posted on 11/19/2001 5:27:06 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: lepton
The Captain's place is in the left seat, the co-pilot could deal with the threat, but once again, his duty is to assist the Captain with flying the airplane. Also, it is awfully difficult to shoot and kill armed assailants - box cutters and knives - when those instruments are being held to the necks of passengers or other crew members. It takes hours and thousands of rounds down range in tire rooms for operators to gain proficiency in doing just that and pilots don't have the time to gain that type of proficiency.
156 posted on 11/19/2001 5:28:16 PM PST by SBeck
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To: Rodney King
What's the question?
157 posted on 11/19/2001 5:32:47 PM PST by SBeck
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To: Big E
The idiots are running the GOVERNMENT. You want more of them??? ROFL
158 posted on 11/19/2001 5:35:28 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: ctdonath2
"We're from the gov't and we're here to help". LOL
159 posted on 11/19/2001 5:36:44 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: SBeck
What's the question?

Nice try. You want us all to know CFR 14 section 107 FAR 108. FAR 108 is a lot of info. Which piece is relavant to this discussion? Surely you actually wanted us to know and weren't just quoting regulations to impress us.

160 posted on 11/19/2001 5:40:09 PM PST by Rodney King
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