DNA IN THE USA: PATRIOT ACT ALLOWS FORMATION OF DATABASE

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[michaelje]

No article though.

[Libertarian_4_eva]

And the income tax was only 3% when it started too

Thank you thank you thank you! Look at the dam telephone tax that was used to fund the spanish american war that was never taken off the books or how large social security has grown.

[steve-b]

The United States will soon begin construction on a giant database containing DNA codes of criminal offenders.

If Danny Williams ever gets into trouble, we'll finally find out for sure.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

tell me more.

[another1]

How often are false charges of violence and abuse used as retribution in divorce and custody cases? Seems like there are a lot of bogus situations, including malicious false claims that could put just about anybody and everybody on the DNA list - but that is the point, isn't it?

[michaelje]

Read the posts on this thread.

[mass55th]

" I don't want to even come off as condescending but you must admit that many a good intentioned program has been blown out of proportion in our government."

Frankly, I can't see any problem with keeping the DNA of known criminals in a database. It's been going on now for a couple of years in New York and might even help solve future crimes. Besides, you fail to realize that every time you give blood, have blood drawn for tests, etc., your DNA could have already been stored somewhere. Who knows what those lab clerks are doing with our blood? But if you want to worry about something before it's even a reality...knock yourself out! It's just reminiscent of those Democrats who need to fear monger over everything.

And while I'm on the subject of paranoia, what about all those medical clerks and medical transcriptionists who have access to every aspect of your physical and mental health record? Not to mention the bean pickers who have access to your credit report, your personal finances, pin numbers, credit card expenditures. Hell, at any time, any one of these minimum wage telephone operators can tell you where you spent your vacation last year or where you ate dinner last week.

And if you're worried about your email...keep worrying, because anyone of those tech support folks who work for your internet supplier can access your email at any given time. They've got your password to do so.

I just want you to realize that it's not just the government that can delve into every aspect of your life.

P.S. Hope you can sleep okay tonight.

[realpatriot71]

as determined by the Attorney General

Cute, let the man who orchestrated the assualt on our rights, be in charge of who does and who doesn't go in the database. Why does this not make me feel to good?

[mass55th]

"How often are false charges of violence and abuse used as retribution in divorce and custody cases?"

I believe they're talking about criminal offenders here. That means individuals who have been convicted of a violent felony. In New York, I believe only convicted sex offenders at this time are required to give up a DNA sample.

[mass55th]

"Define sex offender"

Like rapists and child molesters...add those miscreants who kill their victims after they've raped, mutilated and sodomized them.

" Explain why sex offences are so special as to warrant DNA samples and not other violent crimes. Political pandering, perhaps? Whats next? Let me guess, hate crimes?"

Since you don't seem to be aware of the fact, sex crimes include the rape and sodomizing of men, women and children. If that's political pandering in your mind, so be it. And while we're educating you, sex offenses are committed by serial offenders, which means they do it again and again, ergo, the DNA samples to try to match these serial crimes with serial offenders. Oh, and by the way, repeat offenders are more likely to kill their victims rather than leave a witness to identify them.

Hope this helps.

[mass55th]

"This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't get your drivers license renewed if you owe child support. What does one thing have to do with another? Why should child support be linked to the DMV? "

It's probably linked because the Support Dept. of the local welfare agency or Family Court hasn't been able to locate the scumbag who decides he's not going to pay support for the kids he helped bring into the world. When he tries to renew his license (with a new address more than likely), his whereabouts are finally pinpointed. Or do you believe this is "political pandering" too?

[bookwurm]

The handwriting is on the wall. It's very easy to see how a DNA database could eventually be required for individuals guilty of hate crimes. I already see the day coming when being a Christian and evangelizing will be considered a hate crime. I think we're on that path already. There is currently case after case being heard today in courts around the US where Christians are being fired from their jobs and discriminated against because they had a bible at work, told someone about Jesus, etc. etc. Because of Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin, how much longer do you think it will be before preaching this fact will be considered a hate crime. I know it is coming because persecution of Christians has been increasing exponentially over the past 20 years and it is going to get worse.

[Texasforever]

Really, how does that differ from fingerprints?