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Second Senate Anthrax Letter Found; Addressed to Leahy
CBS News | 11/16/01 | Dan Rather

Posted on 11/16/2001 2:47:44 PM PST by John H K

Dan Rather just stated on the evening news that a second anthrax letter, postmarked from Trenton NJ on Oct. 9, was found in the undelivered Senate mail, addressed to Senator Patrick Leahy.


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To: John H K
Isn't there's a recent history of domestic right wing terrorism in the US? Ie, the bombing of abortion clinics, murders of abortion providers, Oklahoma City, Atlanta City, .... Suppose this is one more "biggie" we end up having to put on the list. People might start noticing a trend. Ann Coulter might even be forced to advocate a crack down on civil liberties for conservatives using her "brutally unfair but effective" test for public policy. Swing voters might start to associate opposition to Leahy and Daschle with terrorism. If there's a backlash and we lose control of the House, Democrats would seize complete control of the legislative agenda and Bush could be forced into making highly visible and awkward choices about what to veto. Could be bad. Very bad.
141 posted on 11/17/2001 7:57:32 AM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Swing voters might start to associate opposition to Leahy and Daschle with terrorism. If there's a backlash and we lose control of the House, Democrats would seize complete control of the legislative agenda and Bush could be forced into making highly visible and awkward choices about what to veto. Could be bad. Very bad.

Gee, sounds like a vast left wing conspiracy to me. Early on I believed it really was terrorists. One would be hard-pressed to find a radical right winger in Trenton, New Jersey of all places. Doesn't anyone find it odd that this letter was found following Leahy's recent challenge to Bush on the Military courts? Seems like a publicity stunt.

142 posted on 11/17/2001 8:12:05 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
"sounds like a vast left wing conspiracy to me." I don't know how anyone can be so sanguine. There's a non-zero probability either way.
143 posted on 11/17/2001 8:22:43 AM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Spirit Of Truth
#1. I never said you libeled him, although his lawyers might well do so. The tort is “false light.”

#2. You have decided he is a clear and present danger to the U.S. However there is a small problem for you in that no court, agency, investigator or department with any legal standing has agreed with you. To publish (as you have done in a legal sense) such an accusation without such legal determination is a very short trip to damages for the Dr. in question.

Unfortunately for you, you cannot make the argument that LEOs do not know about this person. The truth is that they have received your information, examined it, and by your own confession, found it wanting of one or more elements of a required proof.

#3. By your actions, you place FR, JR (and of course yourself) at severe legal peril because you have a beef with someone. Unfortunately for all of us, having a beef is not enough. You do not have proof, as pointed about above. Therefore you cast FR et al. into peril for a "false light" tort action.

If the Doctor's lawyers can show you did this out of spite, to hurt him, or the like, there will be punitive damages like telephone numbers!

If you think you private beef and temper tantrum is worth costing FR tens of thousands in legal fees, plus damages, go right ahead. I doubt anything short of a jury verdict will convince you.

PS, forget about all this BS your hear about making yourself suitproof. Ask your spouse, children, etc. how they would like being evicted from your home to pay court-awarded damages from your written temper tantrum.

Words, like guns, can do incredible damage…… and those who would shoot them off with recklessness often pay severe penalties.

One more thing. The Law requires Truth, not just your idea of truth or some self-created "Spirit," "Idea, or "Semblence" of it. I hope that is not very expensive lesson for you to learn

146 posted on 11/17/2001 9:07:57 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: Nate505
The guy made the comment 'good targets.' Now far be it for me to defend liberals, but if John Ashcroft and Bob Barr were sent these letters, and someone said 'good targets,' most people here would take offense, and rightly so. I don't know if the guy was happy that anyone was sent anthrax, but it was a comment that was in very poor taste, to say the least...

If that comment was made on national television or something I could see your point. I guess I've spent too many hours in political chat rooms to not recognize a very lighthearted joke when I read one. Are you saying you really think the posters meant it literally?

This is an internet conservative forum, for gosh sakes. What people say in here is meant to be taken in that context. We joke around about stuff we'd never say in an idealogically mixed audience. It was not meant seriously. I don't see how you can miss that.

147 posted on 11/17/2001 9:22:51 AM PST by Media2Powerful
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To: sakic
Would you think it was funny if someone wrote something similar after an anthrax letter was sent to Ronald Reagan and opened by his wife?

Well, this is round two of the same conversation.

No I wouldn't like it if someone said that about the Reagans. I do believe I could put it in context, however, if I were cruzing a liberal internet political forum website. I could understand, also, that it was in no way meant literally, but was an expression meant as a joke.

You should hear the stuff the liberals say in the "from the right" chats on AOL. See: DrChicago1, JNFedUp, GOPSux, ....I cannot begin to list them all. They are just trying to be rude. The posters on this thread, to the contrary, were just taking note of the liberal choices and expressed it with a touch of humor on a CONSERVATIVE FORUM.

Try and keep it in context.

148 posted on 11/17/2001 9:31:05 AM PST by Media2Powerful
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To: Ben Chad
I thought about it. Until she gets one, I'm safe.

But I do agree with you.

149 posted on 11/17/2001 9:35:05 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Bump, I have read some of your earlier "Wally" posts, but saving this one for later reference
150 posted on 11/17/2001 10:00:45 AM PST by Robert357
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To: meridia
You sound like you are totally histerical. Stop screaming. I in no way implied you are un-american. You state your opinion all you like. All I oringinal said was that you needed to give them a break and you went off like some sort of banshie. Calm down.
152 posted on 11/17/2001 10:36:46 AM PST by maridee
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To: Media2Powerful
What makes you think it was humorous in intent? I didn't see any smiley faces so it's impossible to identify humor in them. This is the context they were posted in. You have said it was humorous. They didn't.
153 posted on 11/17/2001 10:37:45 AM PST by sakic
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To: meridia
"Black postal workers DIED" your words. I forgot to add, what in the world has race got to do with this??? Would you have felt better if they were white?
154 posted on 11/17/2001 10:42:29 AM PST by maridee
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To: Spirit Of Truth
If the posts concerning 'Waly Samar' disappear, fellow Freepers will hopefully recognize who brought about such censorship.

I certainly hope so.

I can't get over your selfishness. You would put FR, Jr and others in legal danger so you can wage your own personal vendetta that clearly does not meet legal standards of sufficienty. Do you call removing a multi-million dolar liability "censorship?"

FYI, I would stop posting period if I were you. Your admission that you really don't know who he is digs you and FR in even deeper.

Please, quit while you are behind. FR is too valuable to lose to your personal ventetta against someone you now admit/claim you don't even know!

155 posted on 11/17/2001 11:15:39 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: sakic
Okay, sakic, I'm tired of fighting about it. This just isn't that big to me. I can see why it would make a liberal mad. I do believe in "Do unto others...". I can go that far with you. I still hold that it was said in a completely non-serious manner but I am more in a position, given my political bent, to give them the benefit of the doubt than you are. I'm just asking that you consider the context and place that it was posted.
156 posted on 11/17/2001 11:46:59 AM PST by Media2Powerful
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Excuse me, but might you know of any crime which this Mr. Samar has been convicted?

Do you know of any crime of which he has been acused by any court, grand jury or law officer of competent jurisdiction?

Other than possibly having his name in the phone book/call records of a known terrorist, has he had any provable contact with terrorists? Is there any proof of what they discussed, with the possibility of the conversation being entirely about comming attractions on "Baywatch"!?!? (Baywatch is very big on Saudi TV now!)

Other than the writings of some author, who you may have never met, is there even any proof of such phone communication/listing?

Other than working within a mile of her, is there anything to connect him to the death of the New York hospital worker. Does it matter to you that approximately 650,000 other people also live or work within a mile of her workplace? Does it matter to you that there is no reason to believe he ever met her, had any contact with her, etc?

Do you see the beginnings of a pattern here........

What do you think would be the outcome of a jury of 12 sane people hearing this information in a "false light" litigation against you and FR?

158 posted on 11/17/2001 1:36:52 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Media2Powerful
I agree it was a joke, just one in poor taste. However, if someone made the off handed comment if a letter was mailed to Bob Barr, people here wouldn't treat it as a joke and would probably call the poster everything in the book....yes, I know we're a conservative forum here, so that's understandable, but still, the joke was really in poor taste in my opinion.....
159 posted on 11/17/2001 6:22:29 PM PST by Nate505
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To: Nate505
Poor taste? You're probably right. (I don't love conceding that) I guess from my perspective, an internet and political junkie, who's "been there, done that" myself, as well as having it done to me a few times, I've learned to not take it so seriously. People really don't mean it 99% of the time.

It's a different world this cyber space. I've learned alot about taking crticism (who likes it?) and allowing people space to vent.

Politics is like a court trial. (the court of public opinion) When fought fairly there are two different representations that are vastly different from each other. I enjoy cyberspace because all voices are heard, albeit very blunt. The dictatorship that is the mainstream media gives no representation, or very little, to conservatives. Perhaps that's why I understand the frustration level that produces comments like the one on this thread.

160 posted on 11/18/2001 7:41:14 AM PST by Media2Powerful
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