Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by blam
THURSDAY NOVEMBER 15 2001
Bin Laden's nuclear secrets found in al-Qaeda's Kabul safe houses
FROM ANTHONY LOYD IN KABUL
Times reporter finds blueprint for 'Nagasaki bomb'
Singed files left by fleeing terrorists
OSAMA BIN LADENS al-Qaeda network held detailed plans for nuclear devices and other terrorist bombs in one of its Kabul headquarters.
The Times discovered the partly burnt documents in a hastily abandoned safe house in the Karta Parwan quarter of the city. Written in Arabic, German, Urdu and English, the notes give detailed designs for missiles, bombs and nuclear weapons. There are descriptions of how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass, sparking a chain reaction, and ultimately a thermonuclear reaction.
Both President Bush and British ministers are convinced that bin Laden has access to nuclear material and Mr Bush said earlier this month that al-Qaeda was seeking chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
The discovery of the detailed bomb-making instructions, along with studies into chemical and nuclear devices, confirms the Wests worst fears and raises the spectre of plans for an attack that would far exceed the September 11 atrocities in scale and gravity.
Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. However, they emphasised that it was extremely difficult to build a viable warhead.
While the terrorists may not yet have the capability to build such weapons, their hopes of doing so are clear. One set of notes, written on headed notepaper from the Hotel Grand in Peshawar and dated April 26, 1998, says: Naturally the explosive liquid has a very high mechanical energy which is translated into destructive force. But it can be tamed, controlled and can be used as a useful propulsive fuel if certain methods are applied to it. A supersonic moving missile has a shock wave. That shock wave can be used to contain an external combustion behind the missile . . .
The document was one of many found in two of four al-Qaeda houses which had been used by Arabs and Pakistanis and even reportedly by bin Laden himself. The houses two in the Karta Parwan district and the others further to the east were abandoned on Monday night as Taleban units and their allies fled the city in the face of the Northern Alliance advance.
Attempts had been made to burn the evidence, but many documents still remained. They included studies into the development of a kinetic energy supergun capable of firing chemical or nuclear warheads, external propulsion missiles, preliminary research on the creation of a thermonuclear device, as well as a multitude of instructions for making smaller bombs.
There were also studies into Western special forces hostage rescue techniques, phone numbers for industrial chemical and synthetic producers, flight manuals, aerodynamic research, and advanced physics and chemistry manuals.
The houses were checked after being identified by local people. Afghan looters had concentrated on removing more appetising objects, ignoring foreign language documents that were of no use to them.
Bin Laden has said it is his religious duty to obtain a nuclear bomb. In an interview with the Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir last week, he claimed that al-Qaeda had nuclear capability and said: I wish to declare that if America used chemical or nuclear weapons against us then we may retort with chemical and nuclear weapons as deterrent." Intelligence agencies already have indirect evidence from defectors, middlemen and scientists of Bin Ladens obsession with obtaining or producing a nuclear device.
Al-Qaeda agents are known to have spent more than £1 million trying to obtain enough fissile material to make a dirty bomb that, if detonated with TNT in a populous area, could kill thousands and contaminate it for decades.
Intelligence sources told The Times last month that bin Laden and al-Qaeda had acquired nuclear materials illegally from Pakistan. And at least ten Pakistani nuclear scientists have been contacted by agents for the Taleban and al-Qaeda in the past two years, according to reports.
The knowledge that bin Laden has components for a nuclear weapon is believed to lie behind the warnings from President Bush and Tony Blair that he would commit worse atrocities than the suicide assaults in America if he could.
The Prime Ministers official spokesman said: Bin Laden would have killed 600,000 people on September 11 if he could have done. This simply underlines again why he has to be stopped.
I don't think Cheney ever had any suitcase nukes. And if he did, he wouldn't let Osama have them :).
By accident? Don't think so.
I further note that from what is discussed in this article there is nothing here that could not be compiled from open sources. Of course undergraduate physics students have been able to replicate the design of the plutonium bomb (fat man) for twenty years now.
Stay well - stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown
Well. What to say, hey.
Cannot speak for my government's attitude here, Fusion...
But you sure & the hell nailed mine, Pal.
Be very careful not to go drinking wine from any empty skulls, now.
...other than your own. ;^)
However, I do view the *revelation* docs of this nature being *discovered* in some run-down, un"Safe House" substantiated proof of a Christmas Wish-List with a *warped* Islamic Fundamentalist twist.
...& no more than that.
Which of course is an insight any person having had a partial lobotomy could've summized by themselves.
A minimum of horse sense would dictate the Osama Mamma maniac & his merry maniacees wanted & still want these things in a worst sort of way.
This entire matter's now up to & in the good (ClintonLESS) hands our new, Dubya-lead & directed Intelligence Agencies.
Those organizations will ferret out any of these things if in-fact they're out there.
Evidence? Aside from your intuition?
He wanted it to be a "surprise" so that we could get valuable intelligence when we moved in.
Evidence? Aside from your intution?
Trust me: Why on earth should I? Unless you provide some evidence, aside from your intuition.
Oh, you mean that bomb? C'mon. You can get those plans on the Internet! Now, if it's our W-88 warhead, then I'd worry...because it would mean they'd have been working with the Chinese.
I think I'd be far more concerned about the possibility that al-Qaeda/ bin-Laden might have received nuclear material, components or design information from the North Koreans, also a VERY likely source of both biological weaponry information and technology as well.
And if the North Koreans can keep US attention focused elsewhere through the efforts of such a conveniently deniable surrogate, they may hope to achieve results in their own back yard while we're suitably distracted.
But of course a thorough investigation of the business affairs of Osama's brother Salem would derail any such possibile North Korean/Chinese involvement, right?
-archy-/-
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