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"...George Pitaki, who made a fool of himself saying the pilot "dumped fuel" when not only did he not know this to be the case, it turned out to have been impossible.. Governors, the FBI, and other officials are lying to our faces. "

Pataki makes a statement that anybody who has any familiarity with the plane in question will know is false. We could assume A) he is part of a cover-up, or B) He shot off his mouth, repeated a rumor, misunderstood something, whatever.

You yourself seem to believe he doesn't know what he is talking about- which explanation does that suggest to you? This is what I'm responding to- not speculation over whether this was an attack of not- I don't know. What irritates me is this assumption that the only explanation for discrepancies & false statments in the media is that they are all lying.

One note- I don't have a tv, so I haven't *seen* these folks. Maybe if I did, their shifty behavior and sweaty brows would sway me toward thinking they were lying. But all I keep hearing are things like "no evidence yet= it definitely wasn't terrorism." And I think that's ludicrous.

I call it lying. It may be harsh, but the people doing it deserve to lose their credibility and reputations, whatever you call what they are doing. If we here keep up the pressure then, maybe, next time we will be told "Don't know yet, ask me tommorow." instead of "He was a sportsman, drank from a stream, isolated incident, don't buy Cipro..."

But all I keep hearing are things like "no evidence yet= it definitely wasn't terrorism."

It's the media that spins this new math and -- believe it or not -- some Freepers actually start repeating it. "No evidence yet" actually means -- no evidence yet. It's SOP IMO for all investigations.