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MS promotes Linux from threat to 'the' threat
The Register ^ | 12/11/2001 | Thomas C Greene

Posted on 11/13/2001 8:52:01 AM PST by Schnucki

Linux is the long-term threat against our core business. Never forget that!" Microsoft Windows Division Veep Brian Valentine exclaims in a confidential memo to his Sales Brownshirts obtained by The Register. (our emphasis)

The core outrage from Valentine's perspective is all these Sun and IBM shops migrating in droves to the cheaper Intel platform, and observing along the way that Linux is a good deal easier to deal with if you're already acquainted with UNIX. Funny that. Kinda the key idea behind Linux, but we digress.

"I need you to make sure that as many of these customers as possible continue to migrate off of UNIX, but on to Windows 2000 on Intel," Valentine says. "You should be smothering your accounts from every angle, and if you see Linux and/or IBM in there with it, then get all over it. Don't lose a single win to Linux."

Valentine's hard-sell hall monitors will be marching through a data center near you, we gather, searching for open-source contaminants and anything else that breathes in the marketplace and consumes their air.

"If you haven't done it at your customer sites -- then do a walk-thru of their datacenters and take inventory of where you see Sun machines, IBM, etc and ask them what they running on those machines. Learn about what they do with those systems, keep that inventory in your back pocket -- hell -- tattoo it on your butt if you have to -- and go after them. Knock them out one machine, one application, one department at a time. I cannot stress how important this is!"

It's no secret that MS has long regarded Linux as a threat, at least not since Eric Raymond broke the news two years ago with the infamous Halloween Documents. But it's lovely to see it becoming the threat, apparently because it empowers people to operate computers and networks without buying into the nebulous Microsoft .NET vision, which, as you'll see below, the company thinks of as something to be 'positioned' by its products.

We just love the way salesmen talk. Especially frightened ones. ®

The text
From: Brian Valentine
Sent: Sat 11/10/2001 12:01 PM
To: WW Sales, Marketing & Services Group
Cc:
Subject: Hello again - long time no talk to...

Linux Wins & Update

I'd like to share with you are some great Linux wins we've had recently. But before I do, I need to highlight a trend that we're seeing with many of our customers. They're fed up with expensive UNIX/RISC solutions from Sun, HP, and IBM. They're looking to move and they want to migrate to the Intel platform. Unfortunately, because Linux is very similar to UNIX, and porting applications from UNIX to Linux isn't that hard, we're starting to see customers move their UNIX applications to Linux on Intel platforms. I need you to make sure that as many of these customers as possible continue to migrate off of UNIX, but on to Windows 2000 on Intel.

There are many other things that you need to watch out for with Linux and the Linux Compete Team has been busy creating some great collateral to help you win. One thing you have to always keep in mind here -- Linux is the long term threat against our core business. Never forget that! You should be smothering your accounts from every angle and if you see Linux and/or IBM in there with it, then get all over it. Don't lose a single win to Linux.

If you have not done it, you should inventory all of your accounts to know exactly where Unix (in any flavor, Sun, HP, IBM, etc) is and get engaged with them on how to convert them to the PC economics model and when doing that move to the best developer, application and OS platform in Windows. If you haven't done it at your customer sites -- then do a walk-thru of their datacenters and take inventory of where you see Sun machines, IBM, etc and ask them what they running on those machines. Learn about what they do with those systems, keep that inventory in your back pocket -- hell -- tattoo it on your butt if you have to -- and go after them. Knock them out one machine, one application, one department at a time. I cannot stress how important this is!

Now, on to the wins.

Let's hear it for Mandy Samuelson and her account team in Melbourne, Australia. They were competing head to head with IBM (who was proposing a Linux solution) at JB Were Holding, a worldwide stock brokering firm. In this time of economic downturn, IBM almost had the customer convinced that Linux was the low cost platform of choice for 126 servers. Mandy's team stepped in and fought tooth and nail for the business, displacing the IBM Linux threat for a platform win worth over $400,000 US. How did they do it? By selling the advantages of our platform and the new volume licensing program. The customer saw the value in the changes and believed in the Microsoft platform and decided to take advantage of the savings. Thank you team -- that's one less tattoo Mandy and crew will need to get.

Speaking of fights, Brett Cocking and team from the SLG vertical just don't know when to quit! Not only did they displace RedHat for a 40+ web server deal at Broward County in Florida, they're also going straight after one of the Linux community's key wins at the City of Largo (dubbed the City of Progress). "If they're the city of progress, why are they running Linux?", Brett jokes. "We're going in there to show them how much value exists in the Microsoft platform and take this win away from Linux!" Key in both accounts is the way Brett's team positions Microsoft's future .NET vision as well as providing great products like Windows 2000 to start building on that vision today. Thank you team! I know Brett digs tattoos, but this is one less he is going to have also.

Finally, there's the Ameritrade team. Lloyd Arrow and team lost initially to Linux in the design phases by getting vetoed by the CIO, even after winning on all other merits. After several months of schedule slips trying to implement Linux, the Ameritrade CIO resigned. The account team was back at it with the new CIO and within a month were ready to deploy Ameritrade's most strategic apps, their Stream Quotes Servers, on Windows 2000. This is a key win and will expand from 5 servers to 100's of servers as the service is rolled out to all of Ameritrade's customers. The win demonstrated our business agility and shorter time to market over Linux. Great work team! Lloyd now has more body surface area saved to get that Windows tattoo he has always wanted!

If any of you have additional wins against Linux, along with your strategies & tactics for winning, let me know for future e-mails!


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1 posted on 11/13/2001 8:52:01 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
They sound like other companies in the '80s which were fighting to keep market share from the broad platform, inexpensive and easily-licensed solution MS gave customers. The wheel turns.

The companies who make the mistake of migrating from IBM to Intel/2000 instead of IBM/Linux or Intel/Turbo Linux (it has datacenter) are doing so out of ignorance imo. When they find their databases inside .Net in 2 years it will be too late and too bad. It'll be like running a business inside AOL's network. They'll have no control over the network's protocols and partnering. Good riddance.

2 posted on 11/13/2001 9:06:27 AM PST by Justa
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To: Schnucki
Little 'ol Linux scaring the pants off of software giant, Microsoft? Nah. Can't be. Liberals have told us Microsoft is a monopoly that cannot be challenged ... that they stifle competition. Yada yada yada. Are the liberals lying? Say it ain't so!
3 posted on 11/13/2001 9:15:51 AM PST by VoodooEconomist
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To: Justa
Don't feel to happy for Sun either. My company plans to move ALL UNIX applications to LINUX VM's running on IBM Z-series or S/390 (Mainframes) machines.
4 posted on 11/13/2001 9:18:45 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: Schnucki
Linux will be no threat to Microsoft until my mother can install it.


5 posted on 11/13/2001 9:22:02 AM PST by LiveFree2000
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To: Schnucki
As Microsoft has learned, ya can't beat free...or even nearly free...software.
6 posted on 11/13/2001 9:24:34 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: LiveFree2000
Something makes me think that your mother didn't install Windows. ;)

That being said, Mandrake is pretty darn close to meeting that standard.
7 posted on 11/13/2001 9:31:44 AM PST by general_re
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To: DouglasKC
Is this news? Linux will lose in the long run. And on a completely unrelated note... I just installed XP, and *damn* it is nice.
8 posted on 11/13/2001 9:35:47 AM PST by d3nny h4st3rt
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To: LiveFree2000
Anybody can install linux from the distros like Caldera now. It's amazing how far Linux has progressed from the old Slackware 8 floppy install.

/john

9 posted on 11/13/2001 9:44:10 AM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Schnucki
...then do a walk-thru of their datacenters and take inventory...

There is nothing more useless or arrogant that a salesman. One that DEMANDS his minions trespass, question, and invade my business to make a sale is the enemy.

Thank you for posting this, Schnucki. MicroTaliban just lost a lot of money.

10 posted on 11/13/2001 9:52:23 AM PST by FreedomFarmer
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To: Schnucki
They are right to be scared. Linux is different from a commercial competitor. In many ways, Microsoft can't compete against Linux - that is, not compete and lose, but can't even get in the same game. Google is built on free software, and would have cost tens of millions more to build on Windows (and even more if they used Solaris). I like XP, but the first time I can't get around some content protection crap, I'll set up a Linux machine for my media management instead of XP.
11 posted on 11/13/2001 10:10:45 AM PST by eno_
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To: Schnucki
This is nothing but old fashioned rah-rah motivational salesmanship. There's nothing here to support any nefarious behaviour by MS.

BTW, the posting of customer names and other personal information of innocent people is not too cool.

12 posted on 11/13/2001 10:12:00 AM PST by VA Voter
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To: d3nny h4st3rt
Linux cannot "lose" as it is not a company.

As long as one person remains interested in it, it will live on.

And, on the contrary, Linux is picking up steam, in light of Microsoft's latest release/privacy invasion/extortion attempt.

13 posted on 11/13/2001 10:17:32 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: VA Voter
You can get the latest distribution of RedHat (7.2) from www.cheapbytes.com for the cost of the CDs plus shipping, about $15, and it leaves all versions of windows in the dust.
14 posted on 11/13/2001 10:20:39 AM PST by medved
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To: eno_
I like XP Pro's packet scheduler that seeks out and switches to the fastest route. I really helps in long-distance dls. As for overall performance you have to remove the 20% resource reservation to get it to operate at full power.
15 posted on 11/13/2001 10:21:21 AM PST by Justa
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To: B Knotts
And, on the contrary, Linux is picking up steam, in light of Microsoft's latest release/privacy invasion/extortion attempt.

I am in the internet industry. Compare the number of times that Apache falls over to the number of times that IIS falls over. Compare MySQL to MS SQL in that manner too. Compare ASP to PHP performance. Open Source solutions are more stable and reliable and that is the end of the matter. Microsoft can either adapt or go under.

Regards, Ivan
16 posted on 11/13/2001 10:21:44 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Schnucki
Lindows

Mr. Valentine didn't mention this in his memo. Maybe he doesn't know about it. But if Lindows can be made into a viable product, MSFT may be in big trouble.

What is Lindows? Simply, Linux with a Windows GUI and API.

Here are some links:

Lindows home page
An article from Internet News
An article from ZDNET
And, finally, an article from the Clinton News Network

FWIW, I've been saying for several years that MSFT should dump all their OS code and use Unix/Linux as their OS and concentrate on the API and GUI. This, apparently, is what Lindows is all about.

17 posted on 11/13/2001 10:24:53 AM PST by upchuck
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To: Schnucki
I just love it when someone puts a skir into Microsoft. Unlike their competition, they go off and get more competative rather than get "lawyered up". The end result is that they, and their better competitors, turn out better products. Personally, they've lost me. W98 will be our last Microsoft OS. Linux will be its replacement, not XP. But, if they get their knickers into a sufficient twist, they'll inadvertantly prompt Linux software developers to produce better products for me.

The consumer wins again thanks to competition, not the courts.

18 posted on 11/13/2001 10:29:46 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: upchuck
Pity there isn't more info on their website. It looks like it isn't much more than vaporware at the moment. There are already ways to get Windows itself to run under Linux. Win4Lin comes to mind. However, if Lindows can turn out a product for the projected price, they'd certainly be more attractive. (And the Spring '02 timeframe works for me!)
20 posted on 11/13/2001 10:37:58 AM PST by Redcloak
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