The War is a Trap

Antiwar.com ^ | 11/12/01 | Justin Raimondo

[Ratatoskr]

Does anyone but Justin Raimondo give a flying one what Justin Raimondo thinks any more?

Possibly Justin Raimondo's mom.

[Cold Heat]

I.........S-S-S-S-S-E-E-E-E-E-E-E P-P-E-E-E-E-OPLE!

Jeez are these guys scared puppies or what?

[zarf]

Justin Raimondo....oppressor of women...enemy of the downtrodden.

[Movemout]

Our goal is to break the Taliban for supporting AL Qa'eda, destroy the Afghan based portion of Al Qa'eda, and bring in OBL, dead or alive. We have no imperative to create an Afghan governing body although it seems we will try. If initial efforts at achieving this fail then we should move on to the next terrorist target and let Afghans sort out their own problems.

[11B3]

Given the source of this - Antiwar.com - places it as our daily dose of leftist thinking. Evidently Lew Rockwell had nothing to say today.

There isn't a day that goes by that I'm not thankful that these folks aren't in charge (of anything).

[Zorobabel]

It's good to know one can always count on Justin for an upbeat analysis of the situation.

[11B3]

Leftist "Logic".

[Cold Heat]

I hope we don't have to many but they are definately in congress. BTW, I was a 12D40.

[BigWaveBetty]

Only the other day, US combat commander Tommy Franks did indeed deny it, declaring that the targeting of Bin Laden – "dead or alive," as Bush put it – is not the goal of the US military mission. But then, what is the goal? The overthrow of the Taliban? The restoration of the Afghan monarchy? The "liberation" of Afghan women? The implantation of democracy in the most inhospitable soil imaginable? The conquest of Afghanistan by US troops and the creation of a giant Bosnia in the midst of Central Asia? As the original justification for the war gets lost in a welter of political and military maneuvers, any and all of the above will tend to fill the vacuum – and we will have fallen into the very clever trap Bin Laden has laid for us.

I realize it's hard to hear with you head up your rear. It goes like this Anti-War, the goal is to eliminate terrorist and all who harbor them. That would include bin Laden and all his buddies. It's been said a about a million times. Pretty straight forward.

The very clever trap bin Laden has laid is the one Anti-War is about to fall into. My advice, get thee to the nearest Costco and buy an industrial vat of vaseline, apply liberally (pun intended) to your collective Anti-War heads. Then everybody make a human chain and YANK!

[Mr. Thorne]

This Justin feller'd complain if he was hung with a new rope…

[Congressman Billybob]

You have raised exactly the right point. Poor old Justin become irrelevant on 911, like the anti-war movement in WW II became irrelevant on 12/7/1941.

The latest screed from this benighted soul had to come out exactly when the Taliban in northern Afghanistan is collapsing like a house of cards in a high wind. As Dennis Miller said, Justin is a "rebel without a clue."

Conressman Billybob

[Justin Raimondo]

You better cut some holes in that sheet before you try, bud.

[Fearless Flyers]

This report denies there are Pashtun influences already in the ranks of the Northern Alliance. However there are Pashtun infuences in the Northern Alliance. The ommission of this fact assumes we will believe anything as long as it is repeated often enough, typical liberal B.S. strategy.

The Northern Alliance is much more inclusive then what Pakistan wants in the new government of Afghanistan. Of course there are human rights abuses on all sides of the Afghan conflict they have been at war for over twenty years. There are human rights abuses all over the region and they are not limited to Afghanistan. You could twist this fact to fit any scenario you want. The Northern Alliance may be bunch of thugs, but so are all the other parties involved in this conflict. The Northern Alliance are our thugs which is more then anyone can say for the Taliban. The Northern Alliance is more inclusive then the other principles involved and have stated their intentions are to create an inclusive form of Government for Afghanistan. To stand in the way of N.A. would promote another Theocracy and bigoted government that would continue the human rights abuses of the Taliban, that is what Pakistan promoted by supporting the Taliban in the first place and seems to be what they still want for Afghanistan. Pakistan wants to install a puppet government that will bow to their own wishes for the region.

Antiwar.com continues to ignore facts that discredit their own agenda, only a fool pays attention to them.

[Zviadist]

Justin is correct in his assessment that this whole mission has crept and distorted into something unrecognizable -- or, acutally, VERY recognizable. Generals always fight the last war, it is said. The same could be said for diplomats. We are seeing, partly due to the astonishing provincialism of the American foreign policy establishment, partly due to the usual high-paid foreign lobbyists, partly due to lack of creativity, a replay of Bosnia, Kosovo and other similar interventions. When in doubt, try and build a nation. Who cares if it has never worked, got any better ideas? Sorry, but this is not good enough for those of us who actually care about what they are being forced to foot the bill for.

Justin would disagree, but there are many similarities between this Northern Alliance and the Djindjic/Kostunica gang that has run former Yugoslavia into the ground courtesy of our tax dollars.

[Zviadist]

This report denies there are Pashtun influences already in the ranks of the Northern Alliance. However there are Pashtun infuences in the Northern Alliance. The ommission of this fact assumes we will believe anything as long as it is repeated often enough, typical liberal B.S. strategy.

I don't know if you are correct. Certainly in the king's entourage there are the Pashtun, but the NA/King alliance is pretty much DOA -- except in the fantasy world of most Congressmen and think tankers.

[dead]

Justin,

I recall reading your article where you stated how much more civilized and cultured the world would be if only Japan had won World War II.

I’m sincerely interested in your dingbat opinion on how our benevolent and loving Japanese Imperial leaders would have reacted to five thousand dead people in Manhattan?

Do enlighten me further, sensei. Or do I need to snatch a pebble from your hand first?

[mlocher]

justin thinks this is about revenge? tearing down an eveil infrastructure is insurance that this will not happen again.

[Elenya]

You seem to forget that the NA warlords atrocities are the reason for the rise of the Taliban. GWB is right. If the NA takes over, we'll have to deal with the same crap in 10 years.