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I didnt say I would snipe with the Ruger...(unless I was 50 yrds away), but my Remington consistantly puts shots in a 4"group at 700 yards.

I shoot with a guy who won the top civilian service rifle at Perry a few years ago(missed overall by one point) and he can't hold that with his 40-x in 7mm-08 at 600. (I have seen him go clean with 200-12X and consistently shoot 195s+ with a service rifle in bad conditions at 6.) It is considerably easier to dope the wind with a 7mm-08 or .308 than any load in a .223 (including the 80's which I doubt the Remington will even stabilize. I don't know the twist off the top of my head.) I know you might hold that for maybe a 3 shot group once in a while, but consistently 4"s????? That is some real shooting.

With light to NO WIND, the heavy barrel and Leupold scope will let the 68 gr. Federal Gold Match .223 sail right down to 600-700m easily...our range on Camp Robinson Arkansas national Guard base has a 1000m range for machine guns and snipers....we use that range b/c it has 15 foot high banks and trees on each side....

With no wind in Pierre, SD (a very very rare event), we hit groundhogs very infrequently at 600m-700m. But it can be done with good equipment, good training, lots of practice, and God on your side holding the wind back for you.