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To: Grampa Dave
Ok. . . do it with HE and heli-carried tanks of Propane.

1. Run a pipe in 100 yards or so: cover the pipe with a metal crush shield with integral incendiary devices every 5-10 feet

2. HE entrace closed. Call in Helicopter.

3. Attach LNG or Propane tank to pipe. Open valve.

4. Fire Incindiary charges. Load up troops and sling empty tank: return to base.

Basically, turning a cave into a fuel-air bomb. What's not zapped by the shock gets asphyxiated from the O2 uptake of the blast. Roll credits, cut to commercial

8 posted on 11/01/2001 9:01:25 AM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak
Why not just drop the propane tank into the mouth of the cave and then detonate!

I don't know about you, I would not want be riding a copter carrying a propane tank. Nor would I want to be on the ground with a tank. The Taliban's old anti tank rocket launchers would have a field day with incoming tanks and any tanks on the ground!

When you have B52's, you don't have haul these tanks in. You just air mail them in! Use the candy gram technique used on Mongo in Blazing Saddles!

9 posted on 11/01/2001 9:18:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Salgak
I remember while on R&R back when, I was having a couple of cold ones with this A/F C-130, guy. We were discussing the problem with Charlie hiding in the tunnels up in the hills.

It seems that when working on various and sundry aircraft, sometimes they would have to de-fuel them, and that fuel was considered contaminated. It was stored in surplus 6,000 gal tankers. These tankers were getting old, and starting to leak. The only use for this fuel was to the Crash and Rescue crews ,who would get a couple hundred gallons once and a while for training, so the base command was looking for a way to get rid of this stuff

My C-130 guy came up with an idea to drop one of the surplus tankers out of a C-130 over the tunnel area at about 10,000 ft, once it impacted the fuel would atomize and being heavier that air would seep into the tunnels. His plan was to have another C-130 arrive in trail and drop a parachute flare. It was surmised that when the flare reached the point where the fuel air ratio was ideal it would ignite, thus using up all the air in the area as well as making a great deal of crispy critters.

I always wondered if this guys, idea was the initial, blueprint for the FAE we have all grown to know and love FYI

10 posted on 11/01/2001 9:31:10 AM PST by Robe
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To: Salgak
I like the way you think.

As to a ground war . . Well, I don't want one either. However, dropping in on the bad guys in caves, "crispyfying" them, then leaving is A-OK with me. I'm sure they have 6 months provisions in those holes, and if we do nothing about the terrorists in half a year they will come out and we will be right back where we started.

I have nothing against them eating all their provisions, but I don't want them eating anything but each other after their stocks run out. Seal them, burn them, I don't really care, either way we get what we want.

12 posted on 11/01/2001 9:52:53 AM PST by Andyman
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