[Collier]

My friend was there. She worked in the Verizon bldg., which is right there. She said when the 1st plane hit, she was almost knocked out of her chair. She left the Verizon bldg. and was watching events unfold. She counted 25 jumpers from the one side that she could see.

[cajungirl]

I think we need to think about the gruesome details, especially when the talking heads start to weep over the "innocents" we bomb. It is like those films of the holocaust, they were horrible and graphic but the jews have not shrunk from showing their children those so it can never happen again. I don't think we should shrink from it either. Hell, they died, the least we can do is understand, see and feel their horror. It will steel us for what is to come.