[Zionist Conspirator]

According to your theory, then, the "Romany" people are also the elect of God, since they claim direct lineage from ancient Roman colonists, and have kept their peculiar language and customs, even while wandering nationless and despised by all in Europe and Central Asia for a couple of thousand years.

Now you're simply being dishonest.

There are any number of ancient peoples who have had similar experiences (the Armenians for another example). Those experiences by themselves do not provide the evidence for the bechirah (election).

The G-d Who created the world (which is described in the JEWISH and not the chr*stian Bible) is the G-d of Israel, and not of the Rom or any other people. The Torah is the Torah of Israel, and not of the Rom. The Holy Language with which the world was created and which all humanity spoke before the Tower of Babel was the language of Israel (Hebrew), not Rom. The Bible is set in 'Eretz Yisra'el and deals with the Jewish people, not the Tom.

Maybe the next time people want to "displace" the Jews with a new religion they won't make the mistake of including the JEWISH Bible at the front so that simple rednecks read it first (and thus interpret the second half through it rather than vice versa). Then maybe rootless Anglo-Americans like me won't latch onto modern Israel as a touchstone the way Jamaican r*st*f*rians latched onto Ethiopia.

[Illbay]

Sorry, I'm just not buying the socialist "utopia" of Israel as the manifestation of God's will. First of all, I happen to believe that the Chosen are going to follow the teachings of one Jesus Christ, and I think the Bible--OT and NT--bears that out.

I have nothing against Israel as a political state. It's the transfiguration of Israel as an ICON I can do without.