Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: truthandlife
I support Isreal because I support civilization and democracy. The religious argument has always puzzled me. Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven? It seems to me that would be more important than any temporal state.
2 posted on 10/25/2001 7:21:15 PM PDT by American Soldier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: American Soldier
Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven?

I'm Jewish and I want to put your mind at ease. This is the least of your concerns.

3 posted on 10/25/2001 7:24:31 PM PDT by BenF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: American Soldier
Shouldn't Christians be more worried about converting Jews to Christianity so that they can also go to heaven? It seems to me that would be more important than any temporal state.

You are correct and that is my prayer when I pray for Israel. The Bible says "multitudes, multitudes are in the valley of decision: and whoever calls upon Your name shall be delivered and saved." I pray that Israel will repent and obtain God's mercy and forgiveness through Jesus.

15 posted on 10/25/2001 7:36:10 PM PDT by truthandlife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: American Soldier
We gentiles must believe that Jesus Christ is our savior to obtain the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jews are God's chosen people...they're "covered" regardless.

18 posted on 10/25/2001 7:37:35 PM PDT by New Horizon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: American Soldier
In the Bible it does tell us to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem.." Psalm 122:6
29 posted on 10/25/2001 7:45:46 PM PDT by truthandlife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: American Soldier
Pro-Israel Fundamentalist "chr*stians" are not chr*stians in the classical sense of the word (they are far superior), because they derive their religion from an uninterpreted composite Jewish/chr*stain bible. They thus have a "split personality" by their very nature. Because the front part of their bible says the Jews are eternally chosen, they must believe that. Because the later part says all must except chr*st or be eternally damned, they must believe that too. The juxtaposition of these two beliefs is simply the natural result of an uninterpreted Jewish/chr*stian bible translated into a common tongue and treated as a single, seamless, organic whole.

Occasionally this problem causes dissonance and is addressed in various ways. One is to deny that modern Jews are Israelites at all and to instead say that chr*stendom is Israel (usually spiritually, but sometimes ethnically as well). An opposite and ultra-Fundamentalist solution is the "parallel but separate tracks theory" in which the salvation chr*st supposedly brought about by gentiles by being "born again" and by Jews by observing the Torah (and after all, the liturgical churches have always insisted that salvation has to be "appropriated," and to the Biblical Fundamentalist the Torah is a far superior means to do this than the rituals and holidays of post-Biblical chr*stendom).

Fundamentalism is greatly misunderstood. Most Jews--not just the liberals--seem to believe that Fundamentalist Zionism is a ruse to convert Jews. Nothing could be more far from the truth. It comes from the composite bible.

44 posted on 10/25/2001 7:56:32 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

To: American Soldier
This God as a real estate agent notion is just a nonsense! How can you explain this racist idea? Suppose Bin Laden converted to Jewdism tomorrow; he would become inheratant of that piece of desert thing called cannan, and he will be an Israeli citizen in the same day. This disregards that he is an evil man, or a criminal. People from the Soviet Union, who never been to a Jewish temple in their lifes, became citizens, over night just by saying they had Jewish heritage. This whole Biblical thing is supposed to be simply a history. People who get hot and bothered by Jedia, and Sameria, Cannan.... should just get a life. Life is short on this planet for all these evanglists to spend their life thinking about Armagaten/ and the second coming? It was supposed to have happend according to the bible in the seventeen hundreds, and every few years some other nut thinks that it, it will happen tomorrow....
113 posted on 10/26/2001 8:00:06 AM PDT by philosofy123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson