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Senators Plan to Tighten Immigration Net
Reuters via The New York Times ^ | October 25, 2001

Posted on 10/25/2001 2:51:04 PM PDT by sarcasm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. senators said on Thursday that they would propose new laws to sew up holes in the immigration net that the Sept. 11 hijackers could have slipped through.

Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jon Kyl said they were drafting a bill that would bar students from seven countries the United States lists as sponsoring terrorism, set up a centralized immigration database and introduce ``smart cards'' for all foreign nationals.

``September 11 pointed out some very clear shortcomings in our immigration and visa systems. ... Our country became a sieve,'' Feinstein, a California Democrat, told a news conference.

Three of the 19 men suspected of hijacking planes and crashing them into key U.S. landmarks were in the country illegally -- two had overstayed their visas.

But Feinstein and Kyl, who lead the Senate's subcommittee on technology, terrorism and government information, said the nine hijackers who were in the country legally were equally worrying.

``We want to close all of the loopholes that exist, whether the terrorists went through those loopholes or whether they could have,'' Kyl, an Arizona Republican, told reporters.

Students from Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Cuba and North Korea -- countries the United States lists as sponsoring terrorism -- should be barred from entering the United States, the senators said. Feinstein cited the example of the head of Iraq's nuclear weapons program, who was educated in America.

MIXED REACTION TO LIMITED STUDENT BAN

Commentators were divided on the ethical implications of imposing such a ban.

John Keeley of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies backed the proposal.

``Heightened security measures and even exclusions seem to me in this climate absolutely appropriate ... at least until such time that the countries change their mind-sets,'' Keeley said in a telephone interview.

But others said that although the ban would not violate human rights law, it could be counterproductive.

``Allowing students from these countries to study in the United States is an opportunity to expose the up-and-coming intelligentsia in these societies to democratic values,'' said Elisa Massimino of the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights.

``It would be a hard message for the Bush administration to square if a bill like that were to pass ... because they are working very hard to show this is not a war against Muslims,'' she added.

For students outside the seven listed countries, the senators said universities should play a greater role in policing immigration laws.

The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service would require proof of enrollment in classes and notification of any withdrawals, and universities, rather than the students themselves, would have to submit visa application forms.

``The foreign student visa system today is one of the most underregulated systems we have. We have seen bribes, bureaucracy and other problems with this system that leave it wide open to abuse by terrorists and others,'' Feinstein said.

The senators also said all non-U.S. citizens should have to submit fingerprints with visa applications and backed the introduction of face recognition technology for every foreigner.

``This is an obvious way of preventing any kind of racial profiling,'' Kyl said.

To keep track of tourists and students once they enter the country, Feinstein suggested an electronic ``smart card,'' which could be swiped through a machine every time the person entered or left the United States.

The senators also urged Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge to create a centralized ``lookout'' database that intelligence agencies, law enforcers and government bodies would feed and that could be accessed at all ports of entry.

Feinstein and Kyl could not provide any overall figure for the cost of their proposals but said they hoped to have the draft completed in a week.


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1 posted on 10/25/2001 2:51:04 PM PDT by sarcasm
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To: Joe Hadenuf; doug from upland; dandelion; SocialMeltdown; Mercuria; Carol-HuTex; cribsheet...
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2 posted on 10/25/2001 2:51:59 PM PDT by sarcasm
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Good, but not good enough. We've got over a million visitors on temporary visas from Muslim countries. We should send them home quick.
3 posted on 10/25/2001 2:56:13 PM PDT by samtheman
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Anyone here on any kind of visa from the seven designated countries should be sent packing NOW.
4 posted on 10/25/2001 3:00:17 PM PDT by digerati
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They better stop planning and start doing. Time is of the essence here in case they didn't notice.
5 posted on 10/25/2001 3:05:22 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: digerati
Did you write your congressman?
6 posted on 10/25/2001 3:06:51 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: sarcasm
"Students from Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Cuba and North Korea -- countries the United States lists as sponsoring terrorism -- should be barred from entering the United States, the senators said. Feinstein cited the example of the head of Iraq's nuclear weapons program, who was educated in America."

Well this is feeble start in the right direction. Now just add Saudia Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, the "Palestinians", Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria, Algeria, Tunisia, Indonesia, Phillipine Muslims, and possibly those Central Asian Islamic states and we might just might manage to keep the terorists out. Oh, and I almost forgot --- Pakistan too!.

7 posted on 10/25/2001 3:07:14 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: sarcasm
Barn doors and horses come to mind...
8 posted on 10/25/2001 3:08:34 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: StormEye
Hear, hear!
9 posted on 10/25/2001 3:10:53 PM PDT by StealthChild
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"Students from Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Cuba and North Korea -- countries the United States lists as sponsoring terrorism."

Pretty short list, if you ask me. It should be tripled, at least.

10 posted on 10/25/2001 3:29:40 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: sarcasm
They are doing the right thing. They are only a day late and a dollar short. Is the thing.
11 posted on 10/25/2001 3:38:42 PM PDT by Vinomori
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Why do we allow anyone from a state known to sponsor terrorism into this country? People from such countries shouldn't even be brought here in shackles to await trial. Congress needs to declare war, brand the terrorists as saboteurs, and execute them following a brief trial. But, execute them overseas; don't tarnish our soil with their blood.
12 posted on 10/25/2001 3:46:15 PM PDT by Sunburnt in Seattle
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"Allowing students from these countries to study in the United States is an opportunity to expose the up-and-coming intelligentsia in these societies to democratic values, said Elisa Massimino of the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights."

Uh, excuse me, Miss Massimino, but we already have the proof that "exposing" middle Eastern students to democratic values does nothing of value -- and certainly enjoying the pleasures and lifestyle of Americans doesn't make them more inclined to like us.

What a moron liberal. She's probably the type that still mouths "Diversity Works!" when we now have proof, thanks to 9-11, that diversity doesn't.

13 posted on 10/25/2001 5:15:28 PM PDT by tom h
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"Senators Plan to Tighten Immigration Net"

I don't trust'em!

14 posted on 10/25/2001 5:18:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: Liz
Ping
15 posted on 10/25/2001 5:26:48 PM PDT by Dan De Quille
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thanks......
16 posted on 10/25/2001 6:20:21 PM PDT by Liz
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To: sarcasm
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jon Kyl said they were drafting a bill that would bar students from seven countries the United States lists as sponsoring terrorism

Geez, and it only took a month and a half for somebody in Congress to think of this....

Allowing students from these countries to study in the United States is an opportunity to expose the up-and-coming intelligentsia in these societies to democratic values

That's a worthy goal -- but it would be safer and probably more efficient to send our teachers over there than to bring their students over here.

It would be a hard message for the Bush administration to square if a bill like that were to pass ... because they are working very hard to show this is not a war against Muslims

Nonsense. The bill is directed to terrorist-supporting states regardless of religion. Two of the seven aren't Moslem countries by any stretch of the imagination, unless they've hidden the Grand Mosque of Havana and the Iman of Pyongyang somewhere.

17 posted on 10/25/2001 6:47:36 PM PDT by steve-b
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It's a start but there's a long way to go. We need to restrict immigration to people compatible with the culture and goals of the United States. Muslims have a different political system, letting them come here is just like importing Nazis who would intend to take over the US.
18 posted on 10/25/2001 8:52:38 PM PDT by FITZ
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I am suprised that Dianne Feinstein is on this. But she proposed earlier placing a 6 month ban on immigration. It is a start - we still have a lot of house cleaning to do.
19 posted on 10/26/2001 7:54:02 AM PDT by Brownie74
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