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IRA decommissioning statement [Official Full Text]
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| October 23, 2001
| Signed: P O'Neill. [A nom de plume used by the IRA to authenticate its statements]
Posted on 10/24/2001 7:17:43 AM PDT by Sparticle
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No, its not a statement by the Secretary of the Treasury.
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:17:43 AM PDT
by
Sparticle
To: Sparticle
This makes Arafat look bad, good timing
To: Sparticle
Interesting that this happened NOT while we had the inept Klinton doing his "peace process" schtick. It happens while we are seeing a different kind of peace process--George Bush style. Sort of like the Iranians releasing the hostages 2 hours before Reagan's inauguration, there may be a strong link between renouncing being a rogue thug and the prospect of imminent room temperature.
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:23:54 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: jammer
Makes you wonder how long their 'committment to peas....errrrrr......sorry, peace' will last. On past performance: only as long as people are keeping a close eye on terrorism. After that: business as usual!
To: NewAmsterdam
Good point. This is a good strategic move, living to fight another day. Perhaps when the next Demo gets elected?
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:35:43 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: Sparticle
I guess the IRA realized that they had been acting like savages. Muslim fundamentalists put it into perspective for them. It's about time.
To: Sparticle
Wow...funny thing, it's the NON-Muslim terrorists that start to say "Hmmm...perhaps now is the time to finally stop dicking over the US. Maybe it's time to actually sit down and talk"
Smart boys.
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:45:46 AM PDT
by
WyldKard
To: Darth Reagan
I guess the IRA realized that they had been acting like savagesI know!! How horrible of them to fight for freedom from Britain when they should subjugate themselves to the All Knowing Empire. Wonder why the United StateS didn't follow the same principle in 1775 and give in to British rule for a few lousy unpowerful seats in Parliament. < /sarcasm>
Of course the US has had it's experience in subjagation of unruly freedom loving stateS in the past before. Boy I sure hope 100 years from now the Irish are as dependent upon the STATE as we all are now. What were those crazy Founding Fathers thinking when they wrote such a crazy document as the Constitution. According to some around here, they should have just sent out a memo telling everyone to bow towards the nation's capital instead of trying to set up a Federal Republic where all the stateS had rights
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:47:25 AM PDT
by
billbears
To: Sparticle
Will someone more atuned to wandering BS please tell me what this statement says they are going to do?
According to the IRA they have never been not in compliance with the agreements they cite.
So where's the big breakthrough?
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posted on
10/24/2001 7:51:30 AM PDT
by
norton
To: billbears
re : when they should subjugate themselves to the All Knowing Empire.
Before as an English man who served his countries military defending Queen an Empire I may have hung my head in shame.
Not
But from what I have read on this very site America wants to have her own All Knowing Empire.
Pax America here we come, 10 to 20 years from know what will you call the President Caesar.
Cheers my soon to be subject of the American Empire.
Tony
To: WyldKard
Sorry, but the IRA has not been 'dicking over the US'. Quite the contrarary: the IRA was allowed to raise millions of cash in the US; so many Americans considered them loveable rogues with a just cause against those evil English. Lots of sentimentality about beautiful, spiritual Ireland against those twisted and lying British. Made me puke. Let's hope that rubbish is over now for once and for all. The IRA have been and still are murderers of innocent civilians. They were and are terrorist. America and Americans have given these terrorists money and political support in the past. A softly whispered, small apology would be much appreciated by the British who are now, after all, on your side.
To: norton
It means nothing. It is just another element of the protracted never-ending communist tactic of lying, argueing, talking, negotiating, considering, while keeping up the violent pressure. The IRA consists of old-style communists who have changed their clothing but not their political philosophy and tactics. Mark my words.
To: Sparticle
IRA statement reads thus, interpreted:
"If we so much as lit a firecracker in the future, an American aircraft carrier filled with mean dudes would park itself off the coast of Ireland and deal. Hence, because, in this post-September 11 era, our weapons are now useless, we'll "give snow in the winter," as it were. (Especially because some of the folks Stateside don't want the FBI to start exploring what the 'political contributions' really bought.)"
I suppose, if it's real, it's good for the violence-weary populace of Ireland and Northern Ireland. If so, the thugs on the loyalist side should respond in kind.
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posted on
10/24/2001 8:03:39 AM PDT
by
Ironword
To: jammer
Sort of like the Iranians releasing the hostages 2 hours before Reagan's inauguration, there may be a strong link between renouncing being a rogue thug and the prospect of imminent room temperature.LOL. Recent telegraphed statements by GWB and Cheney, such as "wherever we find it" and "no neutral ground" were motivating for peace, weren't they?
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posted on
10/24/2001 8:12:09 AM PDT
by
Ironword
To: Sparticle
It's about time they realized that Cromwell is dead. I hope they're sincre.
To: NewAmsterdam
The idea that the IRA is going to stand down (in reality or not) is a very smart ploy. The U.S. will owe Great Britain a lot after this Bin Laden deal. I'm sure that the IRA know that they would probably be on the extermination list very soon. Time to lay low...for awhile.
To: jammer
Yeah, but you know durn well old lovehimself will proudly bleat about any real peace deal that comes out of this. "Ah worked so hawrd to resolve these issues and implement plans that are only now coming to frutition..." Blech!
To: Ironword
Recent telegraphed statements by GWB and CheneyYou are correct. It isn't difficult to see it from their perspective--and these folks know that when GWB and Cheney say it, they mean it.
For all Nixon's faults, and he had many, one of his attributes was that Breshnev, among other tyrants, thought he was crazy, liable to do anything. They blustered, but never were sure of what reactions he would have. In effect, they were scared of him. Therefore, Nixon could negotiate from a position of strength. I don't accuse GWB or Cheney of being crazy, but the effect is the same.
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posted on
10/24/2001 8:21:48 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: epluribus_2
Isn't that the distinguishing characteristic of the bureaucrat and liberal: "I work so hard and am motivated so highly, that it MUST be good?" No mention of results.
They measure input, not output.
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posted on
10/24/2001 8:24:28 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: Sparticle
Dang,
I misread it. I thought it said IRS decommissioning statement.
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posted on
10/24/2001 8:26:55 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
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