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Think different.

Cheers, CC :)

1 posted on 10/20/2001 11:49:24 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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Oh, Please. Mac o'philes who keep trying to assert their superiority remind me of Goreons who say that their man would have won if they could have kept counting the votes in Florida. Bush won, Windows won, end of story.
2 posted on 10/20/2001 11:53:47 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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I currently have Windows, Mac OS X and Unix (solaris) system running my home office. How do I rate them? Solaris rules in terms of raw horsepower and stability. However, Mac OS X comes in a pretty close second, I have to admit. The Windows machine is so bad that it has become a standing joke in my household. I have decided that I am not going to buy any more Windows machines. I'm tired of the infinite problems that come along with Windows, and I'm tired of always being promised that "the next release will be stable". Bull-oney. I've had it with Windows and Microsoft, and I won't be buying any more of their products from here on.
4 posted on 10/20/2001 11:56:08 AM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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Oh, like I can tinker with a MAC!

FWIW I use an old MAC SE+ DuperDrive in my bedroom for wordprocessing. Everything else is on PC's.

Looking at the MAC- which is only about TEN YEARS OLD I have to wonder why Apple folks thought they were superior.

The machine basically sucks, and it cost a fortune back then too.

To add insult to injury I stiull can't figure out some of the menu items.

Apple Folk have a completely different perception of the world. To me thay value form over funtion.

OTOH I can do TONS of stuff with my PC, and I can tweak and hack it to boot!

An Apple person would NEVER DREAM of opening his machine while lots of PC people run without cases for the reasons I've mentioned.

And, a good friend of mine who is a dedicated Apple freak wanted the picture of the Eagle with the Amrican Flag likk arpaint. It took him several days (with his brand new state of Apple Art machine) to figure out how to get the graphic and print it. Even then it didn't measure up to what I had on my (old 500mz AMD based) PC. To make matters worse he couldn't figure out hoe to "flip" the picture around!

Nope, Apple Folk are like tea drinkers and PC People are like coffee drinkers. Apple people are anal and SO into proceedure while PC people just want a hit NOW no matter how they get it!

prisoner6

14 posted on 10/20/2001 12:10:38 PM PDT by prisoner6
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This article is a case of drawing parallels where there are none provable.  The author could have as easily said that MS was copying Real Networks applications with the revamped Media Player.

...and copying Thumbs Plus with MS My Picture.

...and copying Adobe After Affects with Windows Movie Maker.

Just because a Apple OS and a MS OS have similar features doesn't always mean that one copied the other.

In the last line the author exposes his bias and in the rest the article he exposes his ignorance.

17 posted on 10/20/2001 12:13:45 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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GREAT FIND CHENEY CHICK!!!!!! BUMP!!!!!!
21 posted on 10/20/2001 12:19:49 PM PDT by cmsgop
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A Mac thread, CC, and you didn't ping me?

Ooo... if that's how you treat your friends...!

Bumping you anyway, 'Tino.

25 posted on 10/20/2001 12:24:42 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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Windows' domination of PCs has little to do with innovation or quality, for that matter.

Providing the people what they want at a price they can afford was innovative at the time.

29 posted on 10/20/2001 12:28:55 PM PDT by Rodney King
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Maybe if Apple were smart enough to think of a way to make their products affordable for everyone we wouldn't be having this conversation. I started out as a MACOPHILE, but their constant expensive upgrades, lack of software and bad customer service made me flee. I never looked back and don't give a damn who gets credit. If it works, it works.
31 posted on 10/20/2001 12:32:27 PM PDT by Hildy
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I used to work with a Mac, and CC, you are going to kill me for saying this, but I had to give it up. I'll briefly describe why - in terms of website development and writing code, it was a pain in the neck. Oh creating graphics was fine, but anything else was difficult. Rendering pages on a Mac only gave you a rough guess of what it would look like on a PC, and face it, most people have PC's.

Second, Mac ownership is more expensive. For example, you have to pay for most FTP programmes, IRC programmes, etc which come for free on a PC.

Mac ownership also cuts you off from a lot of software. I am an absolute maniac when it comes to anything related to Dune, and when the game Emperor: Battle for Dune came out I was going mad because it wasn't released for Mac. So I gave up, got a really powerful Windows 2000 machine, and haven't looked back. ;)

Regards, Ivan
32 posted on 10/20/2001 12:32:51 PM PDT by MadIvan
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I... I... I... I think I love you...
36 posted on 10/20/2001 12:37:12 PM PDT by IncPen
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Q. Who is the biggest producer of software for the Macintosh?

A. Microsoft.

Q. Who was the biggest producer of Macintosh software 15 years ago?

A. Microsoft.

49 posted on 10/20/2001 1:00:07 PM PDT by TheMole
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Microsoft: Sales (ttm) $25.7B Income available to common (ttm) $6.42B

Apple: Sales (ttm) $5.36B Income available to common (ttm) -$37.0M

You may hate Gates, but he is a hell of a business man.

54 posted on 10/20/2001 1:10:04 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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GIVE ME THE TITANIUM
AND NOBODY GETS HURT!


57 posted on 10/20/2001 1:24:21 PM PDT by Lizzy W
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"Quantity has a quality all its own."

Apple is the Betamax of computers. Technically superior, perhaps. And a loser in the marketplace.

All of this spouting is simply avoiding one simple truth: people vote with their dollars, and they voted for Microsoft.

Get over it. The rest of us just get on with it.

--Boris

85 posted on 10/20/2001 2:06:02 PM PDT by boris
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While I'm no Micro$oft lover, I have a few words for Apple...

Xerox

PARC

Smalltalk

mouse

`nuff said!

Mark

107 posted on 10/20/2001 2:49:25 PM PDT by MarkL
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Imitation is the best compliment......
114 posted on 10/20/2001 3:10:39 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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New XP features such as Windows Movie Maker, My Pictures, and the revamped Windows Media Player strike me as awfully similar to Apple's iMovie, Image Capture, and iTunes software.

This is pretty silly. Apple is no longer the innovater it once was. Both companies are swiping these ideas from innovative small companies.

122 posted on 10/20/2001 3:24:12 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Open architecture PC types

From: Experienced User

Re: It Ain't the Way It Used To Be

I have been following this debate since we got really excited that we could go to an 80 character screen and 64K on our cutting edge Apple. I have owned four PCs and 2 Macs and used many more than that at work. By training I am a control systems engineer. I have written both 6800 and 8085 hex code.

I now have a 450MHz, fairly generic P-II PC, with 250 MBRAM and two USBs in use (a camera and an iPAQ). It's nearly 3 years old and was at that time a top-of-the-line box. I bought it because my prior box had been a Mac-II that bombed fairly frequently, couldn't run a decent CADD program, and cost WAY too much considering its functionality. For a living, I write books, do CADD, consult, and try to keep track of my money. I can now say with some rationale, that owning a PC has become a vicious treadmill.

When I added the iPAQ i had the wondrous experience of BSD, as often as 7 times per day. This little irritant often takes TWO boots to clear. So I thought I would go modern and upgrade to Win2K... AFTER blowing the $300 for software and attendant upgrades, I still can't figure out how or whether to do the upgrade. Now, this is pretty dispiriting, as I don't think I am that unusual and am certainly not a stupid person. The problem is that I can't get a full complement of drivers even if I wanted to and NO ONE will tell me how to do the complete process of reformatting the monster and getting back to where I was should I make a mess of it. The manufacturer (Micron) refuses to support a machine that old and tells me that I shouldn't bother, preferring to regale me with stories of people who replace their computers every 90 days...

Did you hear that PC fans? 90 days.

After confronting this little tid-bit I concluded that I really don't want to spend the rest of my life feeding CDs and waiting for downloads. I would prefer a slower product life-cycle with more time spent developing rugged, error-free software and making sure that a minor concern such as CUSTOMER SERVICE is respected by maintaining access to a current set of drivers or links to get them from someone else.

I really don't mind that technology progresses so rapidly, I simply resent the fact that products are sold as backward compatible to Win98 and are not. I don't appreciate each vendor messing with the guts of my system software without explaining the rationale BEFORE I BUY THE PRODUCT, a 'What we do to your machine,' as it were.

"Oh but CO that would be too hard, there are so many configurations out there..."

Exactly.

Wake up PC land, this customer is looking around again.

125 posted on 10/20/2001 3:30:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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I'm not sure what this was other than a Mac circle jerk.

The significant thing here is not that MS is aping Mac as the problems MS is building into using their software.
I am just waiting for someone who innovates the use of non-XP MS software long enough to migrate to another OS, not Apple and certainly not MS

172 posted on 10/21/2001 12:00:03 PM PDT by Publius6961
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You should know better than to post this tripe. Preemptive multitasking? Protected memory? Encrypted filesystems? Any of this stuff ring a bell? Apple surely ain't a leader when it comes to many desktop technologies.
179 posted on 10/22/2001 5:59:56 PM PDT by Bush2000
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