Posted on 10/18/2001 10:47:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
... and for years.
Even if you take the Boarder Patrol's numbes ... 1 in 10 are Middle Eastern ... 800,000 got through ... that's 80,000 of that veriety.
If you take the rancher's estimates ... it's 150,000 of that variety ... this year ... each year.
If any percentage of that number are here to fight "The Great Satan", then at a word, we could have anywhere form tens of thousands to a hundred thousand or more insurgents already in the perimeter. ... and that's just from that quarter. How many of the others would fight us if they thought the time was right?
IMHO, we need to close that bordrer ... tight.
The Arizona Republic newspaper usually has a large file of stories about Mexicans and illegal immigrants.........
Here's a story that hasn't been reported (it may have caused panic here) - you're hearing it first from me:
A couple of days after the attack two arabic men were acting suspiciously at a convenience store here. This store is in a very rural area near the border beside the highway the comes from Naco and Agua Prieta, Mexico. These men were attempting to make a phone call on the pay phone outside the store but they couldn't seem to figure out how to complete the call. The cashier saw them and the way they were acting and called the Border Patrol. In the meantime, a regular to the store and a friend of my wife's was in the store and saw the men too. He decided to find out more about what they were doing, because he too was suspicious, and he went over to "help" them make the call.
The phone number they were attempting to dial was written on the back of a business card from a Mexican taxi company. He acted like he was helping them, but he really was trying to detain them until law enforcement showed up and to at least obtain the phone number from the card. He took the card under the guise of trying to decipher the written phone number and wrote it on his hand with an ink pen. The men weren't very happy about that and in broken english they kept trying to tell him to give the phone number back. He gave it back and kept "helping" them make the phone call.
Back in the store the cashier was forwarded by Border Patrol to the FBI. She explained the situation and the FBI dispatched agents to the store.
The FBI agents arrived and the arabic men were taken into custody.
My wife heard this story about a week ago from her friend, the man that "helped" the men NOT complete the call and who kept them busy until the FBI arrived. She related the story to me and I've related it here to the best of my ability.
That's two who crossed the border and attempted to get into the country. How about all the rest who have successfully made it across that we don't know about?
This nation seems bent on national suicide.This needs repeating!No matter how many bombs we drop on Afghanistan, we will lose the war right here at home if the fedgov will not get a backbone and a survival instinct.
If only the dumb*ss beureaucrats in DC would start to think that way we might be able to limit the number of American casualties.
Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown
Citizen groups have tried to do exactly that, and have been called racist homicidal maniacs by both governments. And that's without actually shooting anyone.
American landowners along the border who are robbed in their houses almost weekly who have shot and wounded intruders have been charged with assault etc. and are facing huge civil suits put on by "civil rights lawyers" from both nations.
Both governments have WANTED the de-facto open border, at least until 9-11.
These "students" are serving as the terrorist support nets, providing safehouses, advance recon of targets, documents, commo, and rides. You cannot tell me otherwise.
Here we are in a war, and it's like in 1942 we had Japanese and German foreign students in groups to help the sabateurs find their targets. Un-freaking-believable.
Have you been to the UCSD Muslim Student Assoc. website and seen the picture of the World Trade Center taken last spring on their "field trip" to New York? And read the comments on that website about the towers now being gone, and the border is still open?
These "students" need to be rounded up and deported NOW!
Is this nation so stupid that we prefer national suicide to safety?
I did find lots of pro terrorist propaganda though. It's incredible.
I am amazed at what I have learned through this thread and these links. Even though the United States Government has not supported local American landowners along the border, I have to believe that now it the opportunity for Amercians to be active in securing our borders. I don't think that the Border Patrol nor the Mexican government have a chance politically to oppose the efforts of law abiding citizens protecting our nation.
I hate to say this, but I think this is a reality: a number of illegals trying to cross the border who are shot on site will send the message that needs to be sent out, esp. if the U.S. Government rules in each case that it was in self defence or for national security.
I will say this. Here in the South most folks ...black and white are more motivated for total war than I fear our leaders (sans Rumsfeld) are at this point. Imagine....our leaders being propelled towards serious war effort by an angry and vengeful populace. That's how I see it from here. We won't have to be dragged kicking and screaming to this one.
Regards and thanks for the flag.
Unless things start changing soon the unfortuante answer may well be, "YES." Notice the multiple assertions that it is some right wing nut job mailing the anthrax letters. They assert Saddam does not have the capability to produce powdered anthrax all we know is that he has liquid anthrax yet some Bozo is supposed to be able to do what saddam can not do in a garage lab.
Stay well - stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown
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