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To: SocialMeltdown
This fight didn't just start 1,000 years ago.

It started in Genesis, when the two wives of Abraham, one the mother of the Arab nation, the other the mother of the Jewish nation, got in a fight, and the mother of the Jewish nation, Sarah, threw the mother of the Arab nation, Hagar, out in the wilderness to die. Every year, during the Hajj, the Muslims reenact Hagar's wanderings in the wilderness until an angel rescued her from death. The Arabs believe the Jews stole their rightful birthright.

In many ways, the Islamic religion attempts to reclaim the blessing God promisedi to Abraham, which Christians and Jews believe were manifested through the Israelites.

4 posted on 10/16/2001 8:27:52 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
In many ways, the Islamic religion attempts to reclaim the blessing God promisedi to Abraham, which Christians and Jews believe were manifested through the Israelites.

So both Christianity and Judaism are in error and only Islam is the one infallible faith.

Mohammad, as Gods prophet, supercedes Jesus?

Is that your argument?

8 posted on 10/16/2001 8:48:15 AM PDT by SocialMeltdown
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To: lady lawyer
Lady Lawyer,

I just wanted to let you know that your assessment of the root cause of the war was right on target. Satan hates Israel (through whom the messiah has come) and the descendents of Ishmael want to destroy Israel and place themselves in the place of blessing instead.

Fortunately, Israel is, and will remain "the apple of God's eye" and their position is secure.

My prayer and concern is that the United States will remain strong in it's commitment to Israel and NOT bend to pressure to force a "Palestinian State" upon them.

Dr. S

11 posted on 10/16/2001 8:59:42 AM PDT by Jmouse007
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To: lady lawyer
You are right. I interviewed an Islamic Saudi Arab about 15 years ago, and he told me exactly the same thing. He said Arabs believe they descended from Ishmael (Hagar), and that Jews descended from Isaac (Sarah).

We Americans/Christians eventually came out on top of both groups of Semites, and that is why some of their more radical members are both mad at us and constantly try to tell us what to do.

The crusades made the Islamic Arabs even more mad at Christians and Gentiles, as did the loss of their Ottoman Empire. The world-wide success of proselytizing Christians has made militant Islamic Arabs and Israelis mad at us, because they think they are supposed to run and influence the world the most.

But the basic root cause of this problem, in my opinion, is simple human jealousy, just like when the Nazis thought that “Germanic” people should control the world and the Japs thought they should control the Orient. I think this is a human problem (uhhh, mainly a man problem). Some times it can exhibit itself in terms of religion or race or nationality.

22 posted on 10/16/2001 1:18:36 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: lady lawyer
Thank you. This fight is between two first cousins, literally.
52 posted on 10/16/2001 2:28:57 PM PDT by rdb3
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Thank you so much for this. The Bible is the blueprint of life and tells us what has happened and what will happen. In fact, we are just reliving the history of old.
68 posted on 10/17/2001 5:37:37 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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