[RobbyS]

The Church's claim is that all Tradition is based on the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Scripture is tradition in its most concrete form.

[nobdysfool]

The Church's claim is that all Tradition is based on the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Scripture is tradition in its most concrete form.

Nice move, trying to equate Scripture and Tradition....won't work, though. They are not the same, and the Church's claim is a way to weasel out of the inconsistencies that are so obvious to so many. Scripture came before Tradition, and where there is inconsistency, Tradition is what must change. Scripture cannot be changed, else you have no solid basis for faith.

[malakhi]

Scripture is tradition in its most concrete form.

It seems to me that you have a different understanding of how this proceeds:

Catholics: JESUS -> (T)RADITION -> CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES

Protestants: JESUS -> CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES -> (t)RADITIONS

Catholics see scripture as a subset of the larger oral tradition. Protestants see scripture as complete in itself, and tradition as an unwarranted addition to scripture.