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To: pegleg;biblewonk
You have this backwards because your mind is closed to the reality that Mary’s role is to lead us to Christ.

Just how is Mary to lead us to Christ? Certainly we aren't to pray to Mary, are we?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

That seems pretty clear. Only Jesus. No one else.
What am I missing? Where in Scripture is it shown that Mary has a role beyond that of mother?
37,187 posted on 03/27/2002 10:46:43 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE;pegleg
sarcasm time: How dare you quote from the scripture and tell my YOUR interpretation. How arrogant of you to think you understand the bible.

sarcasm over: :-)

37,195 posted on 03/27/2002 10:58:38 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: OLD REGGIE
Just how is Mary to lead us to Christ? Certainly we aren't to pray to Mary, are we?

I’ll give you the short answer. Follow her advice, "Do whatever he tells you." (Jn 2:5).

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
That seems pretty clear. Only Jesus. No one else. What am I missing?

It would be helpful if you read the 1st 4 verses of 1 Timothy

1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men,
2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way.
3 This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

I don’t see where these verses exclude the idea of other people praying for us, whether in heaven or on earth. I would say our prayers become efficacious because of Christ's Mediatorship since we pray in his name.

Where in Scripture is it shown that Mary has a role beyond that of mother?

How about

“I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed; she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel." (Genisis 3:15)

Or

“Woman, behold thy son. After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own" (John 19:25-27).

37,217 posted on 03/27/2002 12:39:07 PM PST by pegleg
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To: OLD REGGIE
37187
"Where in Scripture is it shown that Mary has a role beyond that of mother?"
Actually, at the wedding feast at Cana, as reported by John, Jesus first public miracle was done at the request of His Mother ."Do whatever He tells you " At her request, He turned water into wine .
OTOH, maybe, she does act in the role of mother (spititual),to us all when we ask her(pray) to intercede with Jesus for us .
For years I have heard about "Jewish mothers", in the sense that they exert a WHOLE LOT of influence on their sons .
37,380 posted on 03/28/2002 10:06:22 AM PST by dadwags
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