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To: kattracks
Another example of a "peace-loving Muslim"--this one a home grown variety.

What are the legal requirements for treason?

2 posted on 10/15/2001 2:08:59 AM PDT by twntaipan
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Just like a suburban white youth listening to hip-hop and wanting to be a gangsta. Life threw him a few curveballs, so now he is "confused" about where he fits in so he is trying to belong tosomething he will never really be a part of. He looks rediculous by the way.
40 posted on 10/15/2001 2:35:59 AM PDT by jilley
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To: twntaipan
What are the legal requirements for treason?

Treason is an action rather than just talking. What he is doing would be more along the line of sedition.

It would be helpful if we would declare war. I have no idea why it is to Bush's advantage not to declare war. Congress was willing and Bush asked them not to.

That would be an interesting string to pull. What about being in a declared war is disadvantageous to the presidency?

72 posted on 10/15/2001 3:13:13 AM PDT by eFudd
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To: twntaipan
Article III US Constitution

Section. 3. Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

89 posted on 10/15/2001 3:53:20 AM PDT by cbkaty
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To: twntaipan
If I see him on the streets coming at me, I will kill him.
This post should be forwarded to FBI.
124 posted on 10/15/2001 5:47:41 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: twntaipan
" What are the legal requirements for treason?"

Article III, Section 3:

"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

"The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted."

157 posted on 10/15/2001 7:10:41 AM PDT by boris
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To: twntaipan
What are the legal requirements for treason?

Now that's the best question I've heard all day....if I say what I think should be done to traitors I'll be banned.

177 posted on 10/15/2001 8:03:31 AM PDT by KLT
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To: twntaipan
I don't know, but this could be darn good reason to loose American citizenship. No citizenship...No liberties. Here buddy, a one way ticket to paradise! We need to stop extending these scallywags the very "civil liberties" provided by our nation that they abhor. Just like the leftists used our virtue against us, these evil people use the freedoms granted by our nation's constitution against us.
189 posted on 10/15/2001 10:10:01 AM PDT by bluehorse95
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To: twntaipan; bluehorse95; KLT; boris; cbkaty
I am not a lawyer, but I will try to give a brief interpretation of Treason as it is legally viewed today:

The legal requirements for treason have been visited several times in our nation's history. The founding fathers were particularly concerned that the treason laws not be abused as they had been in England, where the King used them to suppress opposing political views.

During the early 19th century, Aaron Burr was tried for treason, and subsequently the case of Ex Parte Bollman (1807) established that "levying war" required actually raising a body of men "assembled for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonale purpose."

The Cramer Case established the "two witness principle," stating that "Every act, movement, deed and word of the defendant charged to consititute treason must be supported by the testimony of two witnesses."

The Haupt Case in 1947 established that "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" as an action is indeed treasonable, when the Supreme Court sustained a conviction of treason for the first time in its history.

Essentially, in modern law, the act of treason is any direct raising of a force against the US Government to "levy war," or any overt and intentional act to give "Aid and Comfort" to an enemy of the United States.

I suppose the first thing that would need to be established is the Enemy status of any person or state, something that can be easily done if we have declared war. I don't know what the legal definition of "Enemy" is when we are not under a declaration of war.

Once you have established that someone, say a terrorist, is legally an Enemy, simply giving that person money or aiding them in any way would not be enough for Treason. It would have to be shown that the person knew they were aiding an Enemy, and that they intended their actions to harm the United States.

Similarly, simply stating that one desires to commit a treasonous act, or expressing views which are anti-American, does not constitute Treason. Action is required.

If anyone has more insight into treason as a legal principle, please respond!

209 posted on 10/15/2001 2:58:13 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: twntaipan
Would like to reply to this guy : You want a jihad, boy, come down south.I'll jihad with you.You gather up all your jihad buddies, I know where there's a great big mountain way away from everything, and you could have your chance to say it with steel. I was thinking about guys like you a couple weeks ago, and in the shop at work made my own combat knife. You bring your toys, I'll bring mine. You bring your buddies, I'll bring a few guys from the hood. It would be wrong to deny you guys the chance to go to glory for your beliefs.You could take your best shot at a genuine Christian Southern redneck hillbilly who is just as willing to die for God and country as anyone. You people have pi$$ed off a WIDE variety of diverse Americans that you really don't want to ##@* with
246 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:06 AM PDT by angry beaver norbert
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