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More guns won't make us safer
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | Oct 13 2001 | Rebecca Thoman

Posted on 10/13/2001 5:23:45 PM PDT by jdege

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:35:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It is understandable that now, more than ever, Americans want to feel safe. Our basic sense of security has been shattered by the events of Sept. 11. But now more than ever we must respondto our fear and uncertainty with common sense and calm, not hysteria.


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Odd - I thought we wanted to be safe, not just feel safe.

She trots out the usual nonsense. Most of which are simple lies, the rest of which are gross simplifications, based on a deceptive assumption that the behavior of a small population with an abnormally high risk of violence is representative of the risk of the rest of us.

1 posted on 10/13/2001 5:23:45 PM PDT by jdege (jdege@jdege.visi.com)
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To: *bang_list
For the bang_list.
2 posted on 10/13/2001 5:25:09 PM PDT by jdege
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To: jdege
REBECCAISANIDIOT.
3 posted on 10/13/2001 5:25:36 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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If guns don't make us safer then why do we have shooting wars? Why do we arm police with guns? Why are we putting armed sky marshals on aircraft? Because GUNS MAKE US SAFER! DUMBASS!
4 posted on 10/13/2001 5:28:46 PM PDT by go star go
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To: jdege
Where's the barf alert?

I had my flamethrower out.

5 posted on 10/13/2001 5:28:46 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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"More guns in our homes and on our streets will not make us safer."
Wanna bet?
6 posted on 10/13/2001 5:29:19 PM PDT by humblegunner
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Dera Rebecca,

Guns are not necessary to protect us from foreign enemies. The US military is assigned that resposibilty.

Guns are to protect us from our politicians.

7 posted on 10/13/2001 5:29:29 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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"A gun in the home is far more likely to be used in a suicide, homicide or unintentional injury than to be used in self-defense."

Manifestly false. Any reputable survey would refute this. Quoting a single example (as the author does) is a silly device to attempt to lend credibility to a lie.

Once you see this statement, it is immediately obvious that the author is not interested in the truth, but only in pushing an ideological point of view.

8 posted on 10/13/2001 5:30:51 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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The same old lies from the "Red Star".

Now,can we learn a lesson from this??

Yes we can! These shills will NOT stop! No matter what happens,they continue to want us defenceless!

And the big question here is WHY!
Because they know that when the people are unarmed>br? the socialist government becomes a distinct possibility,a major probability in fact.

9 posted on 10/13/2001 5:30:56 PM PDT by tet68
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To: jdege
Thought this post from another thread would be appropriate here.

To: Harley_hog

Even if the gun grabbers get the law changed, I agree with a comment from another thread "It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by six." meaning I'll keep my guns until they come and get me.

93 posted on 10/13/01 4:41 PM Pacific by zip

10 posted on 10/13/2001 5:31:18 PM PDT by zip
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More guns in our homes and on our streets will not make us safer

But fewer guns will make us less safe!

11 posted on 10/13/2001 5:31:29 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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* Homicides with guns occur most often between family and friends. In Minnesota in 1999, 65 percent of homicides were committed by people known to the victim; 19 percent were immediate family members. Easily accessible firearms can turn family disputes into tragedies.

I suspect Rebecca is the kind of person who has a lot of violent disputes in her family.

13 posted on 10/13/2001 5:36:28 PM PDT by Sloth
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Oops. Too late. Already got mine.

14 posted on 10/13/2001 5:37:05 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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Ignore this snivelling shill & look here:

-Right to Keep & bear Arms Links & contact info--

15 posted on 10/13/2001 5:41:50 PM PDT by backhoe
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Our government is nothing but a bunch of doofussess who have failed in their duty. They deserve nothing less than our contempt.

I will agree if you are talking about your government, the Taliban, otherwise you are ignorant or stupid. (Yes, there is a difference). I'm sorry that you expect GWB to call you personally with all of the military plans but I can guarantee you that he won't. There is much going on (overt and covert) and I am proud to be a staunch supporter of MY government.

16 posted on 10/13/2001 5:42:42 PM PDT by zip
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Crime always seems to go down after a massive law-abiding civilian purchase of guns. Crime always seems to go up when roadblocks are added to the law-abiding civilian purchase of guns. Seems I'll take less crime and more guns, as that is proven to make us safer, and its corrolary is proven to make us less safe.
17 posted on 10/13/2001 5:43:37 PM PDT by steveegg
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Patience my brother!!!

Bush43 and his advisosrs are old school patriots and not fools. They may say things that are seemingly PC but this is simple pandering to the liberal media and crowd control. I'm confident that within the confines of 50 years of PC indoctrination these men are doing everything within their power to hold this nation together, protect as many citizens as possible and rid this landscape of the obivious and not so obvious enemy.

Bush43 talked about sacrafice and one of those sacrafices is for all of us to take a few hits while these patriots unravel 50 years of misdirection.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 5:44:03 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: zip; BOBWADE
ping
19 posted on 10/13/2001 5:45:20 PM PDT by zip
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