Why is this not in the Presidential Oath of Office ?

Me

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

I've just read another Freeper posting that they would follow the Oath that they took to get into the Armed Forces. Specifically, this line
"...oppose any enemy of the Constitution, foreign or domestic...", caught my eye.

My question is - why is that phrase, or something similar, not included in the Oaths of Office for the President and the Vice President?

[Amelia]

What, you may ask, is a 'principle'? I don't know but I do know that they must not be compromised! That's how I know a principle when I see it.

But might YOUR "principle" (must never be compromised) be someone else's "guideline" (general rule, but might sometimes be broken for good reason)?

[Piquaboy]

I guess King Willie was not listening when the oath was given to him.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

I disagree. I am quite capable as a citizen, given the full swing of my civil rights enumerated in the BoR, of protecting me and my community and my state. Federal troops are the troops of our tyrant-government that has NEVER INCREASED OUR FREEDOM but only increased our security and that at dread cost.

My use of 'tyrant-government' is rhetorical allusion to, for example, The Patriot's line "which do you prefer, one tyrant that's three thousand miles away or three thousand tyrants one mile away?" Because YOU agree with a tyrant doesn't make it good.

Given my presence and my rights as a citizen, I could have gladly died at Columbine HS or the WTC while trying to stop them. I will gladly be convicted of whatever as long as I am given the right to intervene as a citizen and not merely exist as a sheeple. A sheeple that's disallowed defense and expected to die uncomplainingly.

I took up arms because of Columbine HS.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

Sorry, I reject any hint of 'relativism.' You may call me 'enemy' and 'wrong' but you better do it loud and forthrightly. "My point of view" is the whimper of a sophomore virgin.

My next previous '.sig line' was "Grasping another opportunity to be wrong!" and now I curse "The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense!"

[Amelia]

Sorry, I reject any hint of 'relativism.' You may call me 'enemy' and 'wrong' but you better do it loud and forthrightly. "My point of view" is the whimper of a sophomore virgin.

I'm referring to your definition of principle actually - I'll repost it for you:

What, you may ask, is a 'principle'? I don't know but I do know that they must not be compromised! That's how I know a principle when I see it.

Just saying that your definition is a little "fuzzy" -- you're blessed and can recognize principles when you see them, but can everyone? And would everyone recognize the same principles as you? If they didn't, would their vision just need correcting so that they could see more clearly, or are they wrong or just stupid?

[Fearless Flyers]

"The Constituition has worked pretty well for 200 years, if we'd only pay attention to it."

I know where 8 of the missing 25 years went, how do you account for the other 17?

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I know where 8 of the missing 25 years went, how do you account for the other 17?

It didn't begin with X42 and it won't end with W. Federalism is under rated.

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

"...You are worthy of your screen name. ..."
Why - Thank you much!

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But, I had read thru the portions of the U.S. Constitution.....I was just trying to figure out why the Foreign and Domestic part was in the Military Oath - but not in the Presidential (or the VeeP) Oath.

Yes..I know....I'm a bonafied 'Conspiracy Theorist' of the first order (I'm a member of the JFK assassination generation) and I spend too much time lookin' for things. If the field soldier has to fight ememies, on both sides of the border, then the "Commander-in-Chief" should have to as well.

[barf]

What happened to our Supreme Court?

[riley1992]

But, his answer failed to make any sense....

My guess is he was thinking the exact same thing about your question.

[barf]

Posse Comitatus should cover the BATF and FBI when using military hardware which effectively makes them pseudo members of the armed forces. Play the game. Get the fame.

[barf]

Re: 11. Thomas Jefferson told us that a democracy lasts only 150 years. A republic should behave similarly. Ours must have started going downhill as FDR instituted his form of socialism including our SS system which will either break the bank or fail in its promises sometime in the near future. The last election apparently made many lose faith even in the Constitution. But as a nation of laws, our laws are made by man. There lies the weakness.

[LisaFab]

That's why the Senate never convicted Clinton. The military would have to choose between supporting the constitution, or their Commander if Chief, the President.

If the evil one had been convicted and removed he would have no longer been the CIC.

[Alabama_Wild_Man]

Well, Herr Klinton could've never claimed the title of "C-in-C". As that can, as I understand it, only be 'Officially' used if Congress declares War.

It, the Constitution, covers nothing about the President side-stepping it (per Lincoln), or forcing the Congress' Hand (per Roosevelt), or using the UN (per Bush the First) to attain that status.

...but....that's only my opinion....

[barf]

The power to impeach lies only with the Senate. The military has no say either way. Clinton was a crook but he was judged by other crooks. This is where a republic fails in comparison with a democracy. A republic can be corrupted and ours has been.

[LisaFab]

If the Senate did its job as it was sworn to do, he would have been removed as the CIC and there would have been no conflict with the military.