Posted on 10/07/2001 11:49:14 AM PDT by Sabertooth
OK, smart guy. Enlighten me...
Let's see some of that complex and altruistic ignorance you must prefer.
Wrong.
The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.
We can control the pace of the war, but that's a tactical distinction. Bin Laden wants this to be to the death, and he's not alone, I'm afraid. Millions support him.
We can't control the terms of the war when the enemy wants us dead and will throw their suicidal children at us to do it.
We won't be able to control the terms of the war with bin Laden, Hussein, etc. any more than we could the war with Hitler.
"Bin Laden is trying to make this a war of civilizations. If he succeeds there will be many dead from both civilizations."
Sadly, you are correct.
"Bush has defined this war as one against terrorism, Bin Laden, Al Queda and those who harbor him. If Bush succeeds then civilization on both sides will be intact. Lets support Bush's goals, not Bin Ladens. "
I fully support president Bush in all of his efforts in this regard. At least we'll know we sincerely tried. I just think that this genie is out of the bottle, and only much bloodshed will stop it.
Hope I'm wrong.
CLASH. Fukiyama is all wet. Still doesn't stop him from promoting his "End of History" thesis even today. He has too much invested in it.
A better question to ask is how many went in knowing that the building was going to implode in less than an hour.
IOW, when one side accepts death and welcomes it, they automatically become a more dangerous enemy.
This isn't about who was brave or not. It's about the survival of the United States of America.
If I followed your failed socialist sociologist philosophy, I would have to kill myself.
But then I would be on your side, and being on your side I would be wearing the
"Please don't hurt me, I wouldn't even think of hurting you. Let's be violence free" tee shirt and therefore couldn't possibly be the enemy,
so I would still be here, wouldn't I.
Quite the conundrum!
Maybe he's got his money on the "End of History's Dustbin?"
You know... Where his thesis rests.
Since there is no peace, we have war, but it only came because come because we started this by recognizing Israel.
You're absolutly right, we should just have sat back and watch the arabs wipe them off the face of the earth.
I would direct to Thomas L. Friedmans piece in the NY Times today.
As a large and extinct feline superpredator, there's no great love between me and dogs.
But I rely think you're being a little harsh on the canines with this.
The Arabs weren't doing d*ck with Palestine before the Israelis showed, as is the usual way of most Arab cultures. Then, suddenly, the land was valuable.
The Palestinians could have been settled in another Arab country, but they were just too useful as pawns in the great game of Arabia: "hate somebody else, while I'm raping the country's treasury!", says the Arab ruler.
If Islam is such a benign religion, what's with the dynamiting of ancient Orthodox churches in Kosovo by the devout Muslim drug pushers and white-slavers? And the dynamiting of ancient Buddhist shrines by the Afghan Taliban? And the excavation and destruction of ancient Jewish artifacts on the Temple Mount?
This crap is deliberate. Some of these jerks are no better than woodchucks in robes with rags wrapped around their heads.
You grossly over-simplify the problem here. What about the Balkans and the muslims killing the Serbs there? What about India and Kashmir? What about Chechnya? What about Indonesia? The Phillipines? Really, just about anywhere Islam in numbers rubs up against other religious groups.
Basically, there are many "Palestines". When do you make a stand and say "no more"?
And our God IS God.....
Exactly, Luis!
BTW, good luck in the playoffs. I'll be rooting for the D'Backs unless they run into the A's.
Too bad about that MVP, though.
Oh, than why do live in America? This country is just full of Isrealites, we have English Isrealites, Irishish Isrealites, Italitan Isrealites, Polish Isrealites, German Isrealites and forgive me if I forgot to mention all Isrealites. And never forget our brother Judah, from which lineage our Christ comes, and they are called Jews.....
Peace be unto Jerusalum and all Isreal. In His Service.
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