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Hijackers' bodies set Bush grisly ethical question
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 10/06/2001 | DAMIAN WHITWORTH

Posted on 10/05/2001 4:51:32 PM PDT by Pokey78

IN carefully numbered plastic bags in refrigerated trucks parked at the mortuary at Dover Air Force base in Delaware sit human remains that have presented the Bush Adminstration with an ethical problem.

US investigators told The Times that they had certainly recovered, if not yet identified, the bodies of several of the suicide hijackers, prompting a debate over how to dispose of what is left of the most hated men in America.

The excavation of the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crash sites was completed this week after forensics experts concluded that they had removed all body parts from both scenes. Officials said that although many of the remains were fragmented and charred, DNA tests would eventually identify all of the victims. The bodies of the men who killed them would also be identified, if only by a process of elimination.

The Administration is worried that if it gives the bodies to their families to bury there will be a public outcry. There are also concerns that other Islamic extremists would regard their graves as shrines.

The remains from the plans that crash into Pentagon and in Pennsylvania are being organised at the mortuary at Dover. Some have been identified by traditional methods, such as fingerprints, dental records and other distinguishing features.

Already hundreds of fragments have been taken in test tubes to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) laboratories in Rockville, Maryland, for DNA testing. The institute identified all 230 victims of TWA 800 flight, after that aircraft exploded and the fragments plunged into Long Island Sound in 1996.

Paul Sledzik, the forensic anthropologist who led the search for the 44 passengers, crew and hijackers on board Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania, said that he was confident “we are likely to get 44 unique DNA profiles”. Scientists will use genetic material taken from the victims’ possessions, including razors and toothbrushes, or from their relatives, to make DNA matches that reveal the identities of the victims.

The FBI is believed to be extremely anxious to identify the bodies of the hijackers, especially as there are still doubts about some of their identities and there could be trials of other conspirators.

If relatives are persuaded to co-operate in providing reference samples, or the hijackers have left behind genetic material on possessions, the FBI believes that they could be identified.

Even if the identities are not clarified, the authorities will be left with the remains of nine hijackers from the two sites.

There is a precedent for handing over the remains of even the most notorious figures in American life. The body of Gamil el-Batouty, the co-pilot of EgyptAir Flight 990, who apparently committed suicide by crashing the aircraft into the Atlantic in 1999, was quietly returned to his family in Egypt last year for a private burial.

Even the nation’s most loathed murderers are allowed burial after execution.

Chris Kelly of the AFIP indicated that the authorities were reluctant to consider releasing the hijackers’ bodies. “We are not quite sure what will happen to them,” he said, but “we doubt very much we are going to be making an effort to reach family members over there.”

A source close to the investigation said: “There is this idea that if America is a country of justice it should not be seen to stop the mothers of even the worst monsters from burying their sons, but people would be outraged if these men were handed over for a Muslim burial.”

The Justice Department declined to return calls requesting comment on what it planned to do with the hijackers’ bodies. In the short term the remains are likely to be held for several years, in case of legal proceedings.

Mohammed Atta, the suspected ringleader of the hijackers who died in the first plane to hit the World Trade Centre, laid out strict instructions for his funeral in his will, revealed this week.

The likelihood of any sort of burial of his body is, however, vastly diminished by the difficulties of retrieving remains at the World Trade Centre. Of the more than 5,000 who died there, fewer than 400 bodies have been identified.


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To: Dog
How about cremating them and then mixing the ashes into hog slop. The natural process will turn them into exactly what they were--Pig Sh-t!
21 posted on 10/05/2001 5:05:34 PM PDT by 1lawlady
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To: Heisenburger
This one has my vote.
22 posted on 10/05/2001 5:06:09 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: null and void
That is almost as good as suspending them in lard and sending them into deep space so no one can ever find and 'properly' dispose of them.
23 posted on 10/05/2001 5:06:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: william clark
The imagination of FReepers never ceases to amaze me.
24 posted on 10/05/2001 5:08:25 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: MHGinTN
Actually, I think they ought to just be put in a garbage bag and thrown out with the other trash. Just not even pretend they've been found.
25 posted on 10/05/2001 5:08:47 PM PDT by Quietly
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To: Dan Day
Look at the bright side -- we won't have to decide whether to give the remains to their relatives until some relatives come forward to identify them... That would be a lead to our investigations.

You BAD!!! LOL!

26 posted on 10/05/2001 5:09:14 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Pokey78
Turn the body parts into sausages a la Jimmy Hoffa Sr.
27 posted on 10/05/2001 5:11:01 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: Pokey78
Bury 'em in the graveyard of history's abandoned and forgotten lies...
28 posted on 10/05/2001 5:11:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: Free the USA
Not a concept I believe has any validity.

It doesn't matter what you or I believe. What matters is what they believe...

29 posted on 10/05/2001 5:11:53 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Pokey78
I like all of these recommendations. I say anything that would be extremely offensive to these bits of human garbage and their phony religion is what we should do.
30 posted on 10/05/2001 5:12:39 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: Pokey78
Would even the world's most "tolerant" mother want to receive the odd thumb, tooth, or charred and crispy ear from her beloved son's body, in order to properly bury it? I say screw 'em: put all process-of-elimination body parts in a big pile, sprinkle liberally with lighter fluid, then set ablaze. Then have a team of photographers come in, take pix, and release to the worldwide press with the caption THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO TERRORISTS
True in more ways than one. To make a big humanitarian effort to be the "good guys" would ALSO be seen by them to be rubbing salt in the dismembered wounds, so there's no way we can win either way.
31 posted on 10/05/2001 5:12:58 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Pokey78
Bury them in pigskin body bags. Let their friends know the fate that awaits them. Deny the b@stards the one thing they really wanted. Years ago I heard that Patton or somebody started doing that and it solved lots of problems for him. Regardless, they deserve no respect nor do their families deserve any more than the WTC families. I don't imagine that any of the WTC families wanted thier loved ones burned and crushed under tons of concrete.
32 posted on 10/05/2001 5:13:14 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: william clark
Toss them in a dumpster ....... and let the rats have 'em.
33 posted on 10/05/2001 5:13:14 PM PDT by ~Peter
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To: TADSLOS
Excellent!
34 posted on 10/05/2001 5:17:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pokey78
Isn't it possible that some form of publicize ritual COULD actually deter future suicide attacks? That is if there is a ritual which will deny the terrorist perceived entrance into paradise?
35 posted on 10/05/2001 5:17:17 PM PDT by soccergirl
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To: Pokey78
Mix parts with pork scrap and make some nice sausage.
36 posted on 10/05/2001 5:18:05 PM PDT by jaz.357
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To: soccergirl
Tomb of the Known Terrorits?
37 posted on 10/05/2001 5:18:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pokey78
Tell their families "If you want them, come get them".
38 posted on 10/05/2001 5:18:48 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ~Peter
Or better yet, make them into a memorial spitoon.
39 posted on 10/05/2001 5:18:59 PM PDT by cyberwatcher
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To: Pokey78
Pork.

The other white meat.

40 posted on 10/05/2001 5:19:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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