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God's Invincible Purpose God Vindicated His Righteousness in the Death of Christ
Desiring God Ministries ^ | March 1992 sermon | John Piper

Posted on 10/05/2001 7:17:54 AM PDT by sola gracia

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For the past few weeks, many scriptural postings have been made. All have brought their share of opposition from many. The highlighted text in this sermon, I believe, clarifies why this has been happening.

For too long in this country, we have approached life from a secular mindset. Hopefully, God will bring us back to a more Biblical view of things.

For your perusal and discussion.

1 posted on 10/05/2001 7:17:54 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: sheltonmac, George W Bush, Rnmomof7, enemy of the people, spudgin
Bump
2 posted on 10/05/2001 7:18:58 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: PresbyRev, winslow, Dahlseide, Registered, Federalist#34, XeniaSt, Theophilus, rwfromkansas
BUMP
3 posted on 10/05/2001 7:21:35 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: Jerry_M, the_doc, JenB, oneofhis, Diamond,Aggressive Calvinist, Precisian, BibChr, tex-oma
BUMP
4 posted on 10/05/2001 7:23:03 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: sola gracia
"God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him."

John Piper, my kind of "hedonist", BUMP!

5 posted on 10/05/2001 7:27:04 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: sola gracia
Bump! and Amen!
6 posted on 10/05/2001 7:27:45 AM PDT by Paleo-Con
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To: RnMomof7
Good solid Calvinist teaching BUMP
7 posted on 10/05/2001 7:32:49 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: sola gracia
Jesus Christ is both Savior and Lord.

Too often we forget His Lordship over every part of our lives.

8 posted on 10/05/2001 7:35:19 AM PDT by Aggressive Calvinist
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To: sola gracia; Keyes for President; Dataman; southflanknorthpawsis; Caleb1411
...the secular mindset thinks from a radically different starting point. It does not start with the Creator rights of God to display the infinite worth of his glory. It starts with man and assumes that God will conform to his rights and wishes.

Good stuff. Thank you for the heads-up.

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site (note new URL)

9 posted on 10/05/2001 7:50:51 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: sola gracia
Great post sg. Thanks for the flag. BTTT.
10 posted on 10/05/2001 7:59:23 AM PDT by Registered
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To: sola gracia
OK, someone has to...

I would only advise that while we have seen more overt religiousness on the part of our leaders as a result of recent events, the religious right should not see this as an opportunity to try to foist religion on American daily life and further into government activity.

11 posted on 10/05/2001 8:01:18 AM PDT by JBS
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To: sola gracia;Jerry_M;cc. Uriel1975
Thanks to both of you for the flag.....I am trying to absorb this...In many ways it is consistant to my beliefs...and then in some it promps new thought

Boil that down to the most basic problem the death of Christ is meant to solve. God put Christ forward (he sent him to die) in order to demonstrate his righteousness (or justice). The problem that needed solving was that God, for some reason seemed to be unrighteous, and wanted to vindicate himself and clear his name

But what created that problem? Why did God face the problem of needing to give a public vindication of his righteousness? The answer is in the last phrase of verse 25: "on account of passing over sins done beforehand."

Now what does that mean? It means that for centuries God had been doing what Psalm 103:10 says, "He does not deal with us according to our sins or requite us according to our iniquities." He just passes over them. He does not punish them.

This is a new thought to me..I have always thought of the cross as a sign of God's Mercy and Grace,the ultimate act of love for sinful man..not as an act to vindicate His name.

Any further insite would be welcome...

12 posted on 10/05/2001 9:02:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: sola gracia
Thank you for the post !


I have just finished for the second time Chuck Missler' audio commentary on Romans.

Romans is such a blessing.

I put the audio tapes in my cassette player in my car.

On my way to work and back home,

I can spend an hour a day at a minimum in the L-rd's Word.

Romans Commentary on Audio

Tehillim (Psalm) 119:105 Your Word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.

XeniaSt

13 posted on 10/05/2001 9:34:26 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012
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To: JBS
I would only advise that while we have seen more overt religiousness on the part of our leaders as a result of recent events, the religious right should not see this as an opportunity to try to foist religion on American daily life and further into government activity.

Secularists should not assign this natural spiritual awakening to the religious right.

14 posted on 10/05/2001 9:37:27 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Aggressive Calvinist
"Jesus Christ is both Savior and Lord. Too often we forget His Lordship over every part of our lives."

All too often we forget Jesus period. Most people have no problem talking about God. Just look at how often God is mentioned even in political circles. But when it comes to God in the person of Jesus Christ, we tend to avoid that subject completely.

15 posted on 10/05/2001 10:11:55 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac; Romulus; SoothingDave; wideawake; Askel5
All too often we forget Jesus period. Most people have no problem talking about God. Just look at how often God is mentioned even in political circles. But when it comes to God in the person of Jesus Christ, we tend to avoid that subject completely.

Bingo! Muslims believe in "Allah" (like God the Father) but not in the divinity of Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit of Christ.

Therefore, they are 2/3 deficient, theologically.

Their "god" is not our "God", and I am sickened by the commentators who cannot distinquish these theological points.

Thanks for your insight.

16 posted on 10/05/2001 10:35:45 AM PDT by Aggressive Calvinist
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To: Aggressive Calvinist
Their "god" is not our "God", and I am sickened by the commentators who cannot distinquish these theological points.

AG...To much of our culture one god is as good as the next..

Did you see Gladiator? There he was carefully wrapping up his man made gods..praying to gods made in mans image...

That scene gave me goosebumps,it took me back to my RC roots,but it also showed man has not changed !

Today on TV,we see people that do not have any knowlege of God telling us that somehow we share spiritual roots with these heathens......well may be they do but I DO NOT!

17 posted on 10/05/2001 11:14:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dataman
Oh, puh-leeze. 30 minutes can't go by on C-Span without some southern holy-roller trying to ramrod a religious amendment through on some bill these days. However, some of us still prefer reality over fantasy.
18 posted on 10/05/2001 12:28:05 PM PDT by JBS
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To: Aggressive Calvinist, sheltonmac
Shelton makes an excellent point. Vague references to God (and even God in the Person of our heavenly Father) are generally tolerated.

But any reference to Christ and His cross (and in my case that extends to making the sign of the holy cross) are considered to be in poor taste and superstitious/inappropriate.

The abstract concept of divinity can be comfortably tamed in our subjective mind - but the objective sacrifice and historical reality that is the love of Christ is more challenging to the complacent.

Allah is an abstract who can be used to justify anything - unlike Christ, a real God, who personally brings us face to face with suffering and glory.

19 posted on 10/05/2001 12:50:00 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: George W. Bush
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20 posted on 10/05/2001 1:06:23 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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