Posted on 10/04/2001 12:16:59 PM PDT by ipaq2000
20:40) Sharon to US: Don't turn Israel into Czechoslovakia
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has instructed the IDF to use whatever means necessary to defend the country, he told reporters tonight.
He made his comments after three Israelis were killed this afternoon in Afula, and a terror attack overnight in Jerusalem in which two people were injured.
He also urged the United States not to turn its back on Israel in favor of the Arab states in the way Europe ignored Czechoslovakia in 1938. The results of that move were calamitous, he said.
There is considerable concern in Jerusalem that the Bush administration is allowing terrorist states to join the war on terrorism.
What war has the U.S. fought for Israel? And yet not a peep from you about saving the arses of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia by massive U.S. intervention against Iraq. The U.S. is not interested in fighting Israel's wars but it sure doesn't mind sacrificing her sons and daughters for black gold.
Insofar as your remedy of sticking your head in the sand over the Middle East. This is realpolitik. China and Russia have their client states there. China, in 10 years or so will be 80% dependent on ME energy. But for you it's time to stick the tail between the legs and run.
Neither of these are true. Go do some research. The violence was well underway before Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount.. which is the #1 Holy place for Jews. For example, a Palestinian police officer shot his Israeli partner in the head and wounded another Israeli days before the riots started.
As far as trampling over the rights of Muslims, you are so silly it's rediculous. It is the #1 Holy site of Jews, and yet Israel is not letting any Jews visit it in order to prevent violence. Sharon went to prove the point that Jews should be allowed to go, and of course, he had APPROVAL FROM ARAFAT WEEKS BEFORE HE WENT. They took advantage of his visit, pre-assembled piles of rocks, and the Imams in the mosques gave a violent sermon calling for the followers to leave the mosque and throw stones at the Jews the DAY AFTER his visit. They feigned righteous indignation and started a new cycle of violence because Arafat has walked out of Oslo and was/is trying to use violence to get a better deal.
Hmm so I see, we should just shut up and do what the terrorists say. I don't no about you but I don't respond kindly to blackmail, to do so is cowardly and stupid.
And BTW its hardly one sided. and besides we don't need to support them at all. I just think its time we stopped trying to tie their hands. Let them deal with the Palestinians as they see fit and we do our business as we see fit as well.
In spite of all the pro Israel spew that's out there the truth is-outisde of giving aid all we've done is tie their hands and ask them to deal with those who only want their total destruction. Objectively, That's not pro Israel at all you've just swallowed the Arab faux victim propaganda.
If the USA cuts of aid to Israel I have no problem with that. In fact I encourage it as a part of a larger policy to cut foreign aid out to all countries beyond humanitarian aid. But that doesn't mean I am going to assent to the destruction of the Jewish state or do the murder of Jews in Israel or to a policy that is so hypocritical and illogical that it will be detrimental to America's long term interests. Israel will have to do what is right for them, and so will we. That is all I am saying, and that is all that can be inferred from my post.
You cannot "steal" what is already rightfully yours.
I see. An apologist of pan Arab Islamic fascism. One sided support for Israel? HAHAHHA:
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Nonsense we went to war to protect Saudi Arabia, we went to war to liberate Kuwait and not one of the nations you mentioned did anything near that. And Even though it was perhaps misguided We went to war against the Serbs to protect Muslims. Like Charles Krauthammer said if Muslims can't see that we have gone to bat for them, then they're a damn ungrateful lot to be sure.
ANd to the pro Israel propaganda spew--We have never gone to war top protect Israel, ever. In fact re: war, we asked them not to retlaiate when Iraq launched scuds on them, and they did so dutifully. ANd what have we done in return? some token aid (which btw I do not support) and ask them to make nice with people who will only be satisfied with their total distruction. The same people who cheered when our people were savagely murdered.
I for one don't know what you anti Israel have going on in your heads here, but it can't be any intelligent or objective thinking.
Right on..Can anyone justify our support for Isreal?
The "blackmail" here is falling into Israel's trap of getting America more involved in Israel's holy wars,
Fact: We have never gone to war for Israel, not once.
The ultimate solution is ending America's one-sided support of Israel.
Fact: in no objective sense can our support for Israel be considered one sided. other than the token aid we've given them all we've done is tie their hands and attempt to force them to deal with those who want their total destruction.
it serves no purpose to antagonize oil-producing Arab nations further whom we'll be competing with China more and more in the future to get their oil.
Fact: we went to war to protect Saudi Arabia and liberate Kuwait.
rather than let the Israel lobby flush those down the drain...
Fine let's get out of it, let's say to both the Israelis and the Palestinians, we're out of here, you two settle this your own way. Sounds good to me.
I'm not the one who supports those who cheered and celebrated when thousands of our citizens were massacred. But YOU are.
That either makes you a traitor or a fool or both.
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