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Access Denied: FBI search blocked, Agents wanted to look at hard drive
MSNBC.com/Newsweek ^
| 10/1/01
| Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Posted on 10/01/2001 7:16:44 PM PDT by Jean S
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: San Jacinto
Hidy is a disruptor and has been on other threads stirring up anti Bush cohorts. I don't know why she is such a spiteful, hatful, anti American but somewhere in her past holds a clue. (No, she doesn't have a clue) oh well..
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posted on
10/01/2001 8:51:39 PM PDT
by
zip
To: ikka
Correct. You win the award for AWARENESS.
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posted on
10/01/2001 8:53:47 PM PDT
by
zip
To: Spirit Of Truth
Yeah, what's up with this ? They have had this guy for over a month, 6000 plus dead and "they can't figure out what he was up to ?".
Message to "leaders": is this a war or is this a legal proceeding ? Make him talk, make him beg to talk.
To: Dallas
the rejection of the FISA warrant has produced tension between field agents in Minneapolis and their Justice Department and FBI superiors in Washington-----------
Bush has to deal with.....Reno holdovers.
Ashcroft is a "Reno holdover"?....More like a Reno/Clinton apologist not to mention crying out for MORE police power over the people....
MORE police power is a strange suspicious request from someone who rejected the reviewing of clear evidence for potential terrorism from his own investigators.
To: aculeus
Everyone is missing what stinks the most here:
"...Moussaoui himself was placed in detention on minor immigration charges..."
This slime WASN'T EVEN A US CITIZEN!
Why the hell should the FBI even HAVE to ask permission from anyone to invesigate his hard drive? The guy's an IMMIGRANT!
To: lewislynn
Certainly not Ashcroft....
It will take time to re-structure the department, and replace the deadwood.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:10:53 PM PDT
by
Dallas
To: USGrant
Anyone remember F451 by Ray Bradbury? Shades of the future. Or is that present? That was liberal movie propaganda. Hey, wake up to the real world. Nobody is going to take away your copy of Julius Caesar or Huckleberry Finn.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:14:26 PM PDT
by
Fred25
To: Fred25
Would somebody explain to me exactly what constitutional rights we are obliged to extend to illegal immigrants? The answer is obvious -- illegal immigrants have no constitutional rights. Dont worry about losing your rights as citizens just because we crack down on some malicious foreigners.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:52:51 PM PDT
by
mcollins
To: mcollins
"This came after a FBI tracea request for information from friendly foreign governmentsyielded a report from French intelligence that Moussaoui had been associated with members of an Algerian terrorist group and may have traveled to Afghanistan."
The French tell us that he is an associate of known terrorists, and we want to make sure that we give him all the consideration that a citizen deserves. UNFREEKING BELIEVABLE. Bureaucrat pussies. If we cant stand up and defend ourselves no wonder they think we are a bunch of old women.
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posted on
10/01/2001 10:03:35 PM PDT
by
mcollins
To: Dallas
Bush has to deal with.....Reno holdovers.That's his fault. He could possibly pass the buck to Ashcroft, but neither one of them has shown any interest whatsoever in cleaning up the justice department or the other traitors in our government.
Bottom line: Bush appears to be a more socially-acceptable Clinton.
To: JeanS
We could solve this problem by making it a condition of getting a Visa into the US that you agree to give up any 4th amendment rights to unreasonable searches while you are in the United States. If you don't agree, you don't come in.
The ACLU wouldn't like it, but it would hold up in court.
To: prov1813man
"Message to "leaders": is this a war or is this a legal proceeding ? Make him talk, make him beg to talk
BUMP!
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posted on
10/01/2001 10:11:24 PM PDT
by
rocker68
To: mcollins
They should take these suspects to the back room and get some "info" out of them. If we have more incidents because we were too f***ing nice......there will be hell to pay!
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posted on
10/01/2001 10:11:49 PM PDT
by
TheLion
To: mcollins
I dont mind the crackdown on illegals and terrorists, but I dont think I should be searched at the upcoming Albuquerque balloon festival, because Im not illegal and Im not an Arab. Old Anglo-Saxon white men have never hijacked an airplane and blown up a big building, and so Im not going to spend money where the locals and feds plan to search me, just because a bunch of damn crazy Arabs blew up the World Trade Center. This baloney of searching of the wrong people and searching everybody just so the authorities wont insult Arabs is going to hurt our economy. The government is going to have to get rid of that old liberal PC cultural sensitivity crap. If Arabs dont like specific demographic-oriented searches, they can leave.
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posted on
10/01/2001 10:14:50 PM PDT
by
Fred25
To: smorgle
To: Lion's Cub
You can't expect them to clean out 8 years of dirt in less than 9 months...
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posted on
10/01/2001 10:34:59 PM PDT
by
Dallas
To: ikka, zip
. The Minneapolis agents sought approval to do soand to take other investigative steps aimed at Moussaouiin early September under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), officials said. According to the article, the search was requested under the FISA court. From one of the articles linked below:
With FISA, Congress created a special five-judge panel in Washington, conveniently housed within Justice Department headquarters, to hear secret FBI testimony and issue orders for electronic surveillance against foreign nationals or U.S. citizens suspected of serving foreign governments. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court operates under tight security, and its orders are never made public.
Secret FISA court authorizes more FBI taps, bugs and black bag jobs than ever beforeThe Secret FISA Court: Rubber Stamping Our RightsInside Americas Secret Court
To: Wallaby, OKCSubmariner, Fred Mertz, aristeides
According to the first link I just gave above ("Secret FISA court authorizes..."):
"As in previous years, not a single FISA request was denied in 2000."
Why was THIS one for Zacarias Moussaoui denied?
To: Sandy
See 38.
To: Lion's Cub
Hey, thanks!
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posted on
10/01/2001 11:41:40 PM PDT
by
smorgle
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