America's Most Justified War

StopDemocrats.com ^ | September 30, 2001 | Carlos Leon

[Misterioso]

How long would Mecca be off limits if Bin Laden was able to escape and hole up there? Would he then be safe from the "Great Satan?"

[MeekOneGOP]

bump for later read. Thanks for posting this!

[bluester]

So you would bomb even the most holy city for Muslims if a terrorist hid in it, regardless if innocent people were killed along and destroyed Mecca?

[SKYDRIFTER]

In another issue of accountability, note that the FAA Administrator, Jane Garvey's historic 'stuff' now meets the test for terrorism in Bush's Executive Order. The FAA sponsored the airport security scam - with bonuses. 'Ex post facto' is more of the norm than an exception, anymore.

It also appears that Bush left out (licensed?) the PLO/PA, Hamas, Hizbollah, and Islamic Jihad (Jehad Islamani?).

If I'm reading correctly, it's also rather strange that the bin Laden family in Boston recently received Swiss citizenship & they were allowed to leave the country (presumeably with their fortune) after the 9-11 debacle.

Don't forget that Afghanistan was 'magically' not on the list of 'terrorist sponsoring nations' until after 9-11.

Rather gives the expression, "...curioser and curioser" new meaning, now doesn't it.

In the interim, your personal liberties are being quietly removed; one-at-a-time.

Children, one-more-time; pay attention!!!

[Misterioso]

And, so now to you, Osama Bin Laden is just "a terrorist?" So much for your objectivity. I think the question is pertinent, even if the likelihood of it happening is remote. Millions of people around the world hold the United States of America as a sacred (in a secular sense) monument to freedom and hope. That a ragtag collection of jihadists want to destroy America and all it stands for is reason enough to discount the "holiness" of any Muslim shrine. The more I hear from the spineless jellyfish who tacitly support the status quo vis a vis the "War Against Terrorism", the more I fear for our future.

[bluester]

I don't think you really understood me. Osama Bin Laden is not just some terrorist. He's the leader of one of the most dangerous terrorist groups that has enough money to get any kind od weapon he wants. Of course he scares me. And I hope they get him soon. Dead or alive, if you want it.

I just don't want other people that don't have much to do with him to get killed or their heritage (that is of greatest importance for Muslims) to get destroyed. That's all.

[Misterioso]

I really understood you.

[bluester]

I really understood you.

Good. Then you know that I was talking about Muslims in general and not terrorists like Osama Bin Laden.

[Misterioso]

I think you missed my original point. If the bastard responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington decides to hide in Mecca, then Mecca goes up in smoke. Have I made myself clear? Mecca is not holy to me. And Islam needs to learn its place in the civilized world. The Koran gives no one the right to murder, and those that believe it does are subhuman and deserve to be treated as such. A glorious American motto reads "Don't Tread on Me" and Muslims will learn we mean business. I don't expect a Slovenian to have the same respect for Americans that I do, and I will give you a pass on that account. But you are gravely underestimating the resolve of America if you think we won't kill our enemy. The tree of liberty is about to be watered with the blood of terrorists -- and their apologists.

[bluester]

Actually (as a Slovenian) all my respect and sympathies go to those people killed in the WTC and Pentagon terrorist attacks, and we have all been saddened by what happened, regardless of where you come from. And you’r absolutely right, nothing gave those terrorist the right to murder people, the Koran including. They did it in the name of their own sick and murderous mentality, that any normal human being can only reject.

I don’t underestimate the resolve of America to kill the enemy, as I know there’s probably no other way that justice gets Bin Laden anyway. And I understand that.

I just hope that innocent civilians won’t get killed along and that only those responsible will get punished. I don’t want a Holy war, and that all Muslims would suddenly be a subject of discrimination and suspicion, just because of their religion and because of Osama Bin Laden. That bastard would not deserve that other people of his religion would have to pay the price for his actions.

[Misterioso]

I don't want a holy war either, but it has already begun. Americans now have the regrettable responsibility of trying to clean up the mess their government has gotten them into. If we had properly defended our oil producer's rights when Mideastern and Arabic thugs held a gun to their heads, there would not have developed an Islamic mafia, empowered by sudden riches, which would become a threat to the American people.

As far as innocent civilians are concerned, their safety cannot be promised when they permit terrorists to live among them. To the extent that Muslim populations spawn and encourage terrorism against non-Muslims, innocence becomes an absurd refuge. As far as the innocence of my Muslim neighbors, of whom their are many, I would never hold against them the atrocities committed in the name of their religion. But not all Americans are able to think that rationally when they are scared and confused by the headlines and TV news footage of the devastation in New York.

In any case, I appreciate your concern for the safety of innocents and know that it comes from your benevolent sense of life. It is with some surprise that I discover Free Republic to be a forum read and responded to by freedom-lovers in other countries. Your contributions, while I may disagree with some of them, are definitely welcome and I look forward to more.

[bluester]

Well that's really nice to hear for a change, even though we may disagree on certain matters. Just as you, I wish there were no Bin Laden's in this world and that we wouldn't have to worry about such things. Unfortunately it is not so. All I hope is that people won't start hating people of a certain religion in general because of Islamic terrorists. They would not deserve that. That's what I wanted to say.