America's Most Justified War

StopDemocrats.com ^ | September 30, 2001 | Carlos Leon

[Cuban123]

America's Most Justified War Carlos Leon
America has been involved in many wars throughout it's history. From the Revolutionary War when the Americans fought the British to the war in Serbia in 1999 when the U.S. together with NATO fought Slobodan Milosevic. Every war that America has fought is arguable to some people. Benedit Arnold became a traitor in the Revolutionary War when he committed treason against the US and one of the biggest questions about World War II is if Harry Truman did the right thing by dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan said "If the United States is going to behave as a Roman empire, a global empire, what we saw at the Trade Center is the beginning of the price of trying to uphold that empire" in response to the fact that the US has contributed to foreign wars, Walter Conkrite said "'I think it's time for us to say we've done the best we could-money, materials, the blood of our soldiers have all gone into this effort ... we should seek an honorable peace" after coming back to the states after reporting from Vietnam on one of his national broadcasts on CBS, and most recently Liberal Representative Barbara Lee of California said "some of us must urge the use of restraint" and voted against giving President Bush the power to declare war. All of these people have not agreed with American actions regarding war. But the war that was started at 8:45 am Eastern time on September 11 in New York, the war that was declared on America on that day of infamy, is a war that should have no dissent because this new war is America's most justified war.

Those, like the ignorant Marxists that On September 29 protested the war in Washington and New York (of all places!), have to understand that this war that we are fighting is necessary. We are not intervening in some foreign land where we have some sort of interest (like oil in Kuwait) or helping some foreign group topple a dictatorship (like the Contras in Nicaragua in the 1980's). We are retaliating against a barbaric act on AMERICAN soil, against AMERICAN civilians, against AMERICAN landmarks, against America as a society and America as a nation. This event has never occurred in American history. The closest to it was Pearl Harbor when Japan ordered the bombing of the military instalation and killed 2,403 American servicemen. The toll in New York is already 5,219 (as of September 30) and this does not include the other 180 killed in the Pentagon, the 45 killed in the field in Pennsylvania, and the fact that among the victims there are both military personnel as well as civilians.

Many people argue that America will be seen as cruel if we bomb Afghanistan. That the goal of this war is to get rid of the terrorists and not a government. That it's impossible for President Bush to declare war when a country has not declared war on us. But the fact is that Afghanistan ,represented by the Taliban, has painted a very large target on itself for the past two weeks. While almost the entire world, both allies as close as Britain and former enemies as far as Russia and China, aligned itself with the United States, the Taliban sent a threat to the Arab world telling the countries that if they helped the United States in this war, they would declare war on them. The Taliban also rejected various requests by one of their closest allies, Pakistan, to hand over bin-Laden during several meetings. If the United States government never singled out Afghanistan as a terrorist state and never blamed them for anything, in fact the State Department did not include them as one of the seven countries that support terrorism in their 2000 report on States that sponsor terrorism, then why have they been so supportive of Osama bin Laden and why have they refused ,in such a vehement way, to help the US? Is it because they support Osama bin Laden and they support and harbor terrorism?, of course.

The Left argues that war will not resolve anything because Osama bin Laden is not the only terrorist and that by getting rid of him terrorism will not end. There is no doubt that terrorism will continue even if the US captures and kills Osama bin Landen but the question is to what extent. By getting rid of Osama bin Laden you are sucking out the air of the terrorist movement which bin Laden runs (al-Qaida). He isn't just a Saudi-born Millionaire who decided to slam a handful of airplanes into important American landmarks because he woke up one morning and felt like it. He is the leader of a world-wide terrorist network that bombed U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, and blew up the USS Cole last year. This is a man worth millions of dollars that has set up terrorist training camps around the world since 1979 where he trains, feeds, and shelters these terrorists that are full of hate. By getting rid of him, you are getting rid of the leader a movement, the same way the Holocaust ended because Hitler was defeated, the Soviet Union broke up because Gorbachev resigned, Yugoslavia became a democracy after Milosevic was ousted by the people, and Peru rebuilt it's Democratic government after Alberto Fujimori was taken out of power for corruption. Anti-semitism still exists in Europe and elsewhere, Socialist politicians still get elected in some countries, and corruption still exists in Peru, but these things do not exist to the level that existed when these leaders were there.

This war that America is now in will be long and hard. It will affect the way Americans live, security at airports, military spending, security at major events, invasion of privacy issues, ect. This is why we must support the war whether the government uses diplomatic or military force. Americans cannot stand around and ask for "peace" while Osama bin Laden is planning more attacks against us. America must wake up to the fact that if we do not defend ourselves and show strong force against the terrorists and the countries that harbor them they will defeat us. We must support this war for the victims; the children, the firefighters, the rescue workers, the newly born baby named Hope that was not able to meet her father, the women that was unable to get married with her fiance, the man that lost both his sister and niece, and for America, because it is for these people and for this country that we must support this new war against terror, America's most justified war.

Carlos Leon is an 18 year old Cuban-American student. He is also the editor and founder of StopDemocrats.com, a conservative website.

[Misterioso]

How long would Mecca be off limits if Bin Laden was able to escape and hole up there? Would he then be safe from the "Great Satan?"

[MeekOneGOP]

bump for later read. Thanks for posting this!

[bluester]

So you would bomb even the most holy city for Muslims if a terrorist hid in it, regardless if innocent people were killed along and destroyed Mecca?

[SKYDRIFTER]

In another issue of accountability, note that the FAA Administrator, Jane Garvey's historic 'stuff' now meets the test for terrorism in Bush's Executive Order. The FAA sponsored the airport security scam - with bonuses. 'Ex post facto' is more of the norm than an exception, anymore.

It also appears that Bush left out (licensed?) the PLO/PA, Hamas, Hizbollah, and Islamic Jihad (Jehad Islamani?).

If I'm reading correctly, it's also rather strange that the bin Laden family in Boston recently received Swiss citizenship & they were allowed to leave the country (presumeably with their fortune) after the 9-11 debacle.

Don't forget that Afghanistan was 'magically' not on the list of 'terrorist sponsoring nations' until after 9-11.

Rather gives the expression, "...curioser and curioser" new meaning, now doesn't it.

In the interim, your personal liberties are being quietly removed; one-at-a-time.

Children, one-more-time; pay attention!!!

[Misterioso]

And, so now to you, Osama Bin Laden is just "a terrorist?" So much for your objectivity. I think the question is pertinent, even if the likelihood of it happening is remote. Millions of people around the world hold the United States of America as a sacred (in a secular sense) monument to freedom and hope. That a ragtag collection of jihadists want to destroy America and all it stands for is reason enough to discount the "holiness" of any Muslim shrine. The more I hear from the spineless jellyfish who tacitly support the status quo vis a vis the "War Against Terrorism", the more I fear for our future.

[bluester]

I don't think you really understood me. Osama Bin Laden is not just some terrorist. He's the leader of one of the most dangerous terrorist groups that has enough money to get any kind od weapon he wants. Of course he scares me. And I hope they get him soon. Dead or alive, if you want it.

I just don't want other people that don't have much to do with him to get killed or their heritage (that is of greatest importance for Muslims) to get destroyed. That's all.

[Misterioso]

I really understood you.

[bluester]

I really understood you.

Good. Then you know that I was talking about Muslims in general and not terrorists like Osama Bin Laden.

[Misterioso]

I think you missed my original point. If the bastard responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington decides to hide in Mecca, then Mecca goes up in smoke. Have I made myself clear? Mecca is not holy to me. And Islam needs to learn its place in the civilized world. The Koran gives no one the right to murder, and those that believe it does are subhuman and deserve to be treated as such. A glorious American motto reads "Don't Tread on Me" and Muslims will learn we mean business. I don't expect a Slovenian to have the same respect for Americans that I do, and I will give you a pass on that account. But you are gravely underestimating the resolve of America if you think we won't kill our enemy. The tree of liberty is about to be watered with the blood of terrorists -- and their apologists.

[bluester]

Actually (as a Slovenian) all my respect and sympathies go to those people killed in the WTC and Pentagon terrorist attacks, and we have all been saddened by what happened, regardless of where you come from. And you’r absolutely right, nothing gave those terrorist the right to murder people, the Koran including. They did it in the name of their own sick and murderous mentality, that any normal human being can only reject.

I don’t underestimate the resolve of America to kill the enemy, as I know there’s probably no other way that justice gets Bin Laden anyway. And I understand that.

I just hope that innocent civilians won’t get killed along and that only those responsible will get punished. I don’t want a Holy war, and that all Muslims would suddenly be a subject of discrimination and suspicion, just because of their religion and because of Osama Bin Laden. That bastard would not deserve that other people of his religion would have to pay the price for his actions.

[Misterioso]

I don't want a holy war either, but it has already begun. Americans now have the regrettable responsibility of trying to clean up the mess their government has gotten them into. If we had properly defended our oil producer's rights when Mideastern and Arabic thugs held a gun to their heads, there would not have developed an Islamic mafia, empowered by sudden riches, which would become a threat to the American people.

As far as innocent civilians are concerned, their safety cannot be promised when they permit terrorists to live among them. To the extent that Muslim populations spawn and encourage terrorism against non-Muslims, innocence becomes an absurd refuge. As far as the innocence of my Muslim neighbors, of whom their are many, I would never hold against them the atrocities committed in the name of their religion. But not all Americans are able to think that rationally when they are scared and confused by the headlines and TV news footage of the devastation in New York.

In any case, I appreciate your concern for the safety of innocents and know that it comes from your benevolent sense of life. It is with some surprise that I discover Free Republic to be a forum read and responded to by freedom-lovers in other countries. Your contributions, while I may disagree with some of them, are definitely welcome and I look forward to more.

[bluester]

Well that's really nice to hear for a change, even though we may disagree on certain matters. Just as you, I wish there were no Bin Laden's in this world and that we wouldn't have to worry about such things. Unfortunately it is not so. All I hope is that people won't start hating people of a certain religion in general because of Islamic terrorists. They would not deserve that. That's what I wanted to say.