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Need Techie Input for a Career that is Crashing and Burning
self | today 27 September, 2001 | self

Posted on 09/27/2001 5:18:01 PM PDT by mlmr

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To: mlmr
I am not sure what being current means, I guess. He has 36 and 38 midrange experience, more 36 than 38 I think.

Well, that might be the problem .. that is not very current technology. The AS400 replaced those two machines long ago, but I have to imagine that he could come up to speed rather quickly.

Is he in Maine? where in the country? Heck, put his resume somewhere where we can digest it or pick it up. Has he been in touch with IBM for placement?

41 posted on 09/27/2001 6:12:10 PM PDT by AgThorn
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To: Ace's Dad
Did your relocating work for your family too? Did you find the opportunities you needed. Has it made a real difference in your career. I think this guy will relocate for the right reasons.
42 posted on 09/27/2001 6:12:14 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: Mordichia
MCSE's are nothing more than Desktop support -

I know a few network and Exchange admins that will take exception to that.

43 posted on 09/27/2001 6:12:31 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: mlmr
I wouldn't answer this question, but it is from a freeper, so...

I'm the tech director of a very large element supporting one service of an IT defense integrator.

We (geeks) have implemented neat open system internet technology, which has unfortunately put our national security at risk.

Frankly, the customers havn't given a rat's ass about security for ten years, while everything got worse.

So now, everything from the chlorine in the water supply to NASA's satellites is out there on the internet, if you know how to get to it.

The future $ for at least the next ten years is in it security consultancy. This stuff isn't rocket science. If your relative is really competent to be in the industry, should be no problem to convert.

Good luck.

44 posted on 09/27/2001 6:13:40 PM PDT by geek
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To: innocentbystander
Thank you for the advice. He has been counsulting for almost 25 years but it has been that work has beaten a track to his door, he never had to chase it. He has had an excellent reputation in his area of expertise and a reputation for sterling honesty.
45 posted on 09/27/2001 6:15:26 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
I am not sure what being current means, I guess. He has 36 and 38 midrange experience, more 36 than 38 I think.

System 36/38 was obsolete more than 15 years ago. There's not really much to say. I'd recommend your friend trying to leverage any language skills he has into another environment. Hopefully he has at least good Cobol skills and should try AS400, OS/390 or even VMS shops. That's short term, meaning broadening ones search to find an immediate job. In any case your friend simply has to learn new skills all the time or leave this profession. The simple truth is for S36/38 systems the handwriting has been on the wall for many many years.

46 posted on 09/27/2001 6:15:49 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: tacticalogic
Oops. CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Analyst.

Final correction : CCNA = Cisco Certified Networking Associate,

why I know ? Just picked up my first certification with it. 3 years experience with routers and that little piece of paper will get your foot in the door almost anywhere.

Now CCNP ? (network professional) ... that's where the money starts coming back in.

47 posted on 09/27/2001 6:15:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: tacticalogic
MCSE = Microsoft Certified Network Engineer

CCNA Cisco Certified Network Engineer

Thank you for the translation!

48 posted on 09/27/2001 6:17:06 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: Old Professer
Hmmmmm...

"A healthy male in his mid-years better never come crying on my shoulders because nobody will "give" him a job, I'll piss on his shoes."

Hmmmm...

"; I am 61 years old, half-blind, semi-retired (through no fault of my own), intolerant of halfwits, halfbreeds, halfholes and all other semi-precious imprecations the like of you spill about your plate like orts for stray dogs."

...who is crying on someone's shoulders???????

.......oh yeah, have a nice day.

49 posted on 09/27/2001 6:17:10 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: varon
I don't want to sound cold hearted but I think he is a victim of complacency more than anything else. Getting an attitude adjustment would probably go a long way in improving his chances. Once he gets off the pity pot, he can pursue new challenges with a clear head and focus which the HR people can read so well.

I actually think there is a truth here, but there is huge fear too.

50 posted on 09/27/2001 6:19:54 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: Duke of Milan
You must be one of those "slow learners" I keep reading about.
51 posted on 09/27/2001 6:20:07 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer
Two words: Mac Donalds.

YOU BEAST!

52 posted on 09/27/2001 6:21:30 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: Centurion2000
You are correct. I should have looked it up first.

I expect the demand for people who can work with routers and switching equipment to last for a while. We still have a conversion to IPV6 to get through, and a lot of firewalling and data stream encryption to do.

53 posted on 09/27/2001 6:21:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: innocentbystander
If you cannot be helpful just go away

Thank you.

55 posted on 09/27/2001 6:23:04 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
I actually think there is a truth here, but there is huge fear too.

Have him read a book called "Who moved the cheese?"
He's Hem.

56 posted on 09/27/2001 6:23:45 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: AppyPappy
Thank you, friend.
57 posted on 09/27/2001 6:23:56 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
If he was making that (read: THAT) kind of money and didn't set himself to retire at 50-55, he did something wrong.

Sell the big house, settle into a lesser (but still comfortable) style of living AND RETIRE. You don't need to live the high life (keeping up with the Joneses). He deserves it. Of course all bets off if he still has young kids.

If he gets antsy, he can always get a $10/hour job to keep him outta the wife's hair.

59 posted on 09/27/2001 6:24:55 PM PDT by K7TNW
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To: tacticalogic
Oops. CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Analyst.

Got it!

60 posted on 09/27/2001 6:25:13 PM PDT by mlmr
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