[liberallarry]

I agree with your analysis but feel the problem goes deeper.

Illbay, and others like him all along the political spectrum, have a childish view of the world: they think its good guys, bad guys - as in a Hollywood movie or a morality play.

Its not. Its Darwinian - survival of the strongest, nature red in tooth and claw. A hard and bitter lesson each generation has to learn anew.

[Illbay]

Illbay, and others like him all along the political spectrum, have a childish view of the world: they think its good guys, bad guys

You are 180 degrees wrong. Read some of my comments. It is BECAUSE I don't believe there are cut-and-dry "good guys" and "bad guys" in the Middle East that I have the opinions that I do.

You really must pay more attention. Don't simply rely on your mental template to get you through.